From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, brauner@kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
linux@leemhuis.info, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ebiederm@xmission.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 16:20:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230605142034.GD32275@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whKyWvzg=7_m1o_KLC3zb9FjTBHftc36-5M9X78AxwRXg@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/02, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:59 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > As I said from the very beginning, this code is fine on x86 because
> > atomic ops are fully serialised on x86.
>
> Yes. Other architectures require __smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic for
> the bit setting ops to actually be memory barriers.
>
> We *should* probably have acquire/release versions of the bit test/set
> helpers, but we don't, so they end up being full memory barriers with
> those things. Which isn't optimal, but I doubt it matters on most
> architectures.
>
> So maybe we'll some day have a "test_bit_acquire()" and a
> "set_bit_release()" etc.
In this particular case we need clear_bit_release() and iiuc it is
already here, just it is named clear_bit_unlock().
So do you agree that vhost_worker() needs smp_mb__before_atomic()
before clear_bit() or just clear_bit_unlock() to avoid the race with
vhost_work_queue() ?
Let me provide a simplified example:
struct item {
struct llist_node llist;
unsigned long flags;
};
struct llist_head HEAD = {}; // global
void queue(struct item *item)
{
// ensure this item was already flushed
if (!test_and_set_bit(0, &item->flags))
llist_add(item->llist, &HEAD);
}
void flush(void)
{
struct llist_node *head = llist_del_all(&HEAD);
struct item *item, *next;
llist_for_each_entry_safe(item, next, head, llist)
clear_bit(0, &item->flags);
}
I think this code is buggy in that flush() can race with queue(), the same
way as vhost_worker() and vhost_work_queue().
Once flush() clears bit 0, queue() can come on another CPU and re-queue
this item and change item->llist.next. We need a barrier before clear_bit()
to ensure that next = llist_entry(item->next) in llist_for_each_entry_safe()
completes before the result of clear_bit() is visible to queue().
And, I do not think we can rely on control dependency because... because
I fail to see the load-store control dependency in this code,
llist_for_each_entry_safe() loads item->llist.next but doesn't check the
result until the next iteration.
No?
Oleg.
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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>,
linux@leemhuis.info, nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
ebiederm@xmission.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, mst@redhat.com,
sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, brauner@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 16:20:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230605142034.GD32275@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whKyWvzg=7_m1o_KLC3zb9FjTBHftc36-5M9X78AxwRXg@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/02, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:59 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > As I said from the very beginning, this code is fine on x86 because
> > atomic ops are fully serialised on x86.
>
> Yes. Other architectures require __smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic for
> the bit setting ops to actually be memory barriers.
>
> We *should* probably have acquire/release versions of the bit test/set
> helpers, but we don't, so they end up being full memory barriers with
> those things. Which isn't optimal, but I doubt it matters on most
> architectures.
>
> So maybe we'll some day have a "test_bit_acquire()" and a
> "set_bit_release()" etc.
In this particular case we need clear_bit_release() and iiuc it is
already here, just it is named clear_bit_unlock().
So do you agree that vhost_worker() needs smp_mb__before_atomic()
before clear_bit() or just clear_bit_unlock() to avoid the race with
vhost_work_queue() ?
Let me provide a simplified example:
struct item {
struct llist_node llist;
unsigned long flags;
};
struct llist_head HEAD = {}; // global
void queue(struct item *item)
{
// ensure this item was already flushed
if (!test_and_set_bit(0, &item->flags))
llist_add(item->llist, &HEAD);
}
void flush(void)
{
struct llist_node *head = llist_del_all(&HEAD);
struct item *item, *next;
llist_for_each_entry_safe(item, next, head, llist)
clear_bit(0, &item->flags);
}
I think this code is buggy in that flush() can race with queue(), the same
way as vhost_worker() and vhost_work_queue().
Once flush() clears bit 0, queue() can come on another CPU and re-queue
this item and change item->llist.next. We need a barrier before clear_bit()
to ensure that next = llist_entry(item->next) in llist_for_each_entry_safe()
completes before the result of clear_bit() is visible to queue().
And, I do not think we can rely on control dependency because... because
I fail to see the load-store control dependency in this code,
llist_for_each_entry_safe() loads item->llist.next but doesn't check the
result until the next iteration.
No?
Oleg.
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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-22 2:51 [PATCH 0/3] vhost: Fix freezer/ps regressions Mike Christie
2023-05-22 2:51 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 2:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] signal: Don't always put SIGKILL in shared_pending Mike Christie
2023-05-22 2:51 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-23 15:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-23 15:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-22 2:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] signal: Don't exit for PF_USER_WORKER tasks Mike Christie
2023-05-22 2:51 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 2:51 ` [PATCH 3/3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression Mike Christie
2023-05-22 2:51 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 12:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-22 12:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-22 17:00 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 17:00 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-22 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-23 12:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-23 12:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-23 15:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-23 15:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-24 14:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-24 14:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-24 14:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-24 14:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-25 11:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-25 11:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-25 15:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-25 15:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-25 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-25 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-27 9:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-27 9:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-27 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-27 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-28 1:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-28 1:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-28 1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-28 1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-29 11:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-29 11:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-29 16:09 ` michael.christie
2023-05-29 16:09 ` michael.christie
2023-05-29 17:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-29 17:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-29 17:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-29 17:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-29 19:03 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-29 19:03 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-29 19:35 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-29 19:35 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-29 19:46 ` michael.christie
2023-05-29 19:46 ` michael.christie
2023-05-30 2:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-30 2:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-30 2:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-30 2:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-30 15:34 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-30 15:34 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-31 3:30 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-31 3:30 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-29 16:11 ` michael.christie
2023-05-29 16:11 ` michael.christie
2023-05-30 14:15 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-30 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-30 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-30 15:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-30 15:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-31 5:22 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-31 5:22 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-24 0:02 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-24 0:02 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-25 16:15 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-25 16:15 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-28 1:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-28 1:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-28 19:29 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-28 19:29 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-31 5:22 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-31 5:22 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-31 7:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-31 7:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-31 8:17 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-31 8:17 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-31 9:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-31 9:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-01 2:44 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-01 2:44 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-01 7:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-01 7:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-02 5:03 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-02 5:03 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-02 17:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-02 17:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-02 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-02 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-05 14:20 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-06-05 14:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-22 19:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 19:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 15:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-23 15:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-23 15:48 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-23 15:48 ` Mike Christie
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