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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	tech-board-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: Linux Contribution Maturity Model and the wider community
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:55:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2023061946-latitude-negligent-e4ae@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd1786eadd1ff05d9ca053b72eb5f06ceb0c470d.1687167717.git.fthain@linux-m68k.org>

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 07:41:57PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> The Linux Contribution Maturity Model methodology is notionally based on
> the Open source Maturity Model (OMM) which was in turn based on the
> Capability Maturity Model Integration (CMMI).
> 
> According to Petrinja et al., the goal of the OMM was to extend the CMMI
> so as to be useful both for companies and for communities [1][2]. However,
> the Linux Contribution Maturity Model considers only companies and
> businesses.
> 
> This patch addresses this bias as it could hinder collaboration with
> not-for-profit organisations and individuals, which would be a loss to
> any stakeholder.
> 
> Level 5 is amended to remove the invitation to exercise the same bias
> i.e. employees rewarded indirectly by other companies.
> 
> [1] Petrinja, E., Nambakam, R., Sillitti, A.: Introducing the
> OpenSource Maturity Model. In: 2nd Emerging Trends in FLOSS Research
> and Development Workshop at ICSE 2009, Vancouver, BC, Canada (2009)
> 
> [2] Wittmann, M., Nambakam, R.: Qualipso Deliverable A6.D1.6.3
> CMM-like model for OSS.
> 
> Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
> ---
>  Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst | 9 ++++-----
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst b/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst
> index b87ab34de22c..863a2e4c22e2 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst
> @@ -62,8 +62,8 @@ Level 3
>  =======
>  
>  * Software Engineers are expected to review patches (including patches
> -  authored by engineers from other companies) as part of their job
> -  responsibilities
> +  authored by contributors from outside of the organization) as part of
> +  their job responsibilities

This is fine, but:

>  * Contributing presentations or papers to Linux-related or academic
>    conferences (such those organized by the Linux Foundation, Usenix,
>    ACM, etc.), are considered part of an engineer’s work.
> @@ -103,7 +103,6 @@ Level 5
>  
>  * Upstream kernel development is considered a formal job position, with
>    at least a third of the engineer’s time spent doing Upstream Work.
> -* Organizations will actively seek out community member feedback as a
> -  factor in official performance reviews.

Why are you removing this?  I write more performance reviews now than I
have have in my life, all for companies that I do NOT work for.  That's
a good thing as it shows these orginizations value the feedback of the
community as a reflection on how well those employees are doing at their
assigned job.  Why are you removing that very valid thing?

>  * Organizations will regularly report internally on the ratio of
> -  Upstream Work to work focused on directly pursuing business goals.
> +  Upstream Work to work focused on directly pursuing the organisation's

This is a good change.

thanks,

greg k-h

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	tech-board-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] Documentation: Linux Contribution Maturity Model and the wider community
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:55:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2023061946-latitude-negligent-e4ae@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd1786eadd1ff05d9ca053b72eb5f06ceb0c470d.1687167717.git.fthain@linux-m68k.org>

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 07:41:57PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> The Linux Contribution Maturity Model methodology is notionally based on
> the Open source Maturity Model (OMM) which was in turn based on the
> Capability Maturity Model Integration (CMMI).
> 
> According to Petrinja et al., the goal of the OMM was to extend the CMMI
> so as to be useful both for companies and for communities [1][2]. However,
> the Linux Contribution Maturity Model considers only companies and
> businesses.
> 
> This patch addresses this bias as it could hinder collaboration with
> not-for-profit organisations and individuals, which would be a loss to
> any stakeholder.
> 
> Level 5 is amended to remove the invitation to exercise the same bias
> i.e. employees rewarded indirectly by other companies.
> 
> [1] Petrinja, E., Nambakam, R., Sillitti, A.: Introducing the
> OpenSource Maturity Model. In: 2nd Emerging Trends in FLOSS Research
> and Development Workshop at ICSE 2009, Vancouver, BC, Canada (2009)
> 
> [2] Wittmann, M., Nambakam, R.: Qualipso Deliverable A6.D1.6.3
> CMM-like model for OSS.
> 
> Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
> ---
>  Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst | 9 ++++-----
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst b/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst
> index b87ab34de22c..863a2e4c22e2 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/contribution-maturity-model.rst
> @@ -62,8 +62,8 @@ Level 3
>  =======
>  
>  * Software Engineers are expected to review patches (including patches
> -  authored by engineers from other companies) as part of their job
> -  responsibilities
> +  authored by contributors from outside of the organization) as part of
> +  their job responsibilities

This is fine, but:

>  * Contributing presentations or papers to Linux-related or academic
>    conferences (such those organized by the Linux Foundation, Usenix,
>    ACM, etc.), are considered part of an engineer’s work.
> @@ -103,7 +103,6 @@ Level 5
>  
>  * Upstream kernel development is considered a formal job position, with
>    at least a third of the engineer’s time spent doing Upstream Work.
> -* Organizations will actively seek out community member feedback as a
> -  factor in official performance reviews.

Why are you removing this?  I write more performance reviews now than I
have have in my life, all for companies that I do NOT work for.  That's
a good thing as it shows these orginizations value the feedback of the
community as a reflection on how well those employees are doing at their
assigned job.  Why are you removing that very valid thing?

>  * Organizations will regularly report internally on the ratio of
> -  Upstream Work to work focused on directly pursuing business goals.
> +  Upstream Work to work focused on directly pursuing the organisation's

This is a good change.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-19  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-19  9:41 [PATCH] Documentation: Linux Contribution Maturity Model and the wider community Finn Thain
2023-06-19  9:41 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-19  9:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2023-06-19  9:55   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-06-20  3:48   ` Finn Thain
2023-06-20  3:48     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-20 13:00     ` James Bottomley
2023-06-20 13:00       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2023-06-19 11:32 ` James Bottomley
2023-06-19 11:32   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2023-06-20  3:50   ` Finn Thain
2023-06-20  3:50     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-20 22:52     ` James Bottomley
2023-06-20 22:52       ` James Bottomley
2023-06-19 19:42 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-19 19:42   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-20  3:54   ` Finn Thain
2023-06-20  3:54     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-20 21:25     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-20 21:25       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-21  1:51       ` Finn Thain
2023-06-21  1:51         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-21 12:41         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-06-21 12:41           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-06-22  7:02           ` Finn Thain
2023-06-22  7:02             ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-22  7:10             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-06-22  7:10               ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-06-22  7:24               ` Finn Thain
2023-06-22  7:24                 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-22 17:39             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-22 17:39               ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-23  0:52               ` Finn Thain
2023-06-23  0:52                 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-23  1:45                 ` Mark Brown
2023-06-23  1:45                   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-21 14:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-06-21 14:08           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-06-21 22:48           ` Finn Thain
2023-06-21 22:48             ` Finn Thain
2023-07-01  1:46           ` Measurement, was " Finn Thain
2023-07-01  1:46             ` [Tech-board-discuss] Measurement, was " Finn Thain
2023-07-01  7:04             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-07-01  7:04               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-07-01 22:54               ` Finn Thain
2023-07-01 22:54                 ` Finn Thain
2023-06-21 22:44         ` Finn Thain
2023-06-21 22:44           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain
2023-06-23  2:32         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-23  2:32           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-19 19:49 ` Kees Cook
2023-06-19 19:49   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2023-06-20  3:54   ` Finn Thain
2023-06-20  3:54     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Finn Thain

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