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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Yisen Zhuang <yisen.zhuang@huawei.com>,
	Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Sunil Goutham <sgoutham@marvell.com>,
	Geetha sowjanya <gakula@marvell.com>,
	Subbaraya Sundeep <sbhatta@marvell.com>,
	hariprasad <hkelam@marvell.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	Shayne Chen <shayne.chen@mediatek.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>, Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Memory providers multiplexing (Was: [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:39:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230620083918.2e3dbade@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6909d28b-0ffc-a02a-235b-7bdce594965d@redhat.com>

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:12:41 +0200 Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > The workaround solution I had in mind would be to create a narrower API
> > for just data pages. Since we'd need to sprinkle ifs anyway, pull them
> > up close to the call site. Allowing to switch page pool for a
> > completely different implementation, like the one Jonathan coded up for
> > iouring. Basically
> > 
> > $name_alloc_page(queue)
> > {
> > 	if (queue->pp)
> > 		return page_pool_dev_alloc_pages(queue->pp);
> > 	else if (queue->iouring..)
> > 		...
> > }  
> 
> Yes, this is more the direction I'm thinking.
> In many cases, you don't need this if-statement helper in the driver, as
> driver RX side code will know the API used upfront.

Meaning that the driver "knows" if it's in the XDP, AF_XDP, iouring 
or "normal" Rx path?  I hope we can avoid extra code in the driver
completely, for data pages.

> The TX completion side will need this kind of multiplexing return
> helper, to return the pages to the correct memory allocator type (e.g.
> page_pool being one).  See concept in [1] __xdp_return().
> 
> Performance wise, function pointers are slow due to RETPOLINE, but
> switch-case statements (below certain size) becomes a jump table, which
> is fast.  See[1].
> 
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.4-rc7/source/net/core/xdp.c#L377

SG!

> Regarding room in "struct page", notice that page->pp_magic will have
> plenty room for e.g. storing xdp_mem_type or even xdp_mem_info (which
> also contains an ID).

I was worried about fitting the DMA address, if the pages code from user
space.

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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Yisen Zhuang <yisen.zhuang@huawei.com>,
	Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Sunil Goutham <sgoutham@marvell.com>,
	Geetha sowjanya <gakula@marvell.com>,
	Subbaraya Sundeep <sbhatta@marvell.com>,
	hariprasad <hkelam@marvell.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	Shayne Chen <shayne.chen@mediatek.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>, Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Memory providers multiplexing (Was: [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:39:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230620083918.2e3dbade@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6909d28b-0ffc-a02a-235b-7bdce594965d@redhat.com>

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:12:41 +0200 Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > The workaround solution I had in mind would be to create a narrower API
> > for just data pages. Since we'd need to sprinkle ifs anyway, pull them
> > up close to the call site. Allowing to switch page pool for a
> > completely different implementation, like the one Jonathan coded up for
> > iouring. Basically
> > 
> > $name_alloc_page(queue)
> > {
> > 	if (queue->pp)
> > 		return page_pool_dev_alloc_pages(queue->pp);
> > 	else if (queue->iouring..)
> > 		...
> > }  
> 
> Yes, this is more the direction I'm thinking.
> In many cases, you don't need this if-statement helper in the driver, as
> driver RX side code will know the API used upfront.

Meaning that the driver "knows" if it's in the XDP, AF_XDP, iouring 
or "normal" Rx path?  I hope we can avoid extra code in the driver
completely, for data pages.

> The TX completion side will need this kind of multiplexing return
> helper, to return the pages to the correct memory allocator type (e.g.
> page_pool being one).  See concept in [1] __xdp_return().
> 
> Performance wise, function pointers are slow due to RETPOLINE, but
> switch-case statements (below certain size) becomes a jump table, which
> is fast.  See[1].
> 
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.4-rc7/source/net/core/xdp.c#L377

SG!

> Regarding room in "struct page", notice that page->pp_magic will have
> plenty room for e.g. storing xdp_mem_type or even xdp_mem_info (which
> also contains an ID).

I was worried about fitting the DMA address, if the pages code from user
space.

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Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12 13:02 [PATCH net-next v4 0/5] introduce page_pool_alloc() API Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-12 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/5] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-13 13:30   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-14  3:36     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14  3:55       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-14 10:52       ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-14 12:15         ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14 12:42           ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-14  4:09   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-14 11:42     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14 17:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-15  7:29         ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-12 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/5] page_pool: unify frag_count handling in page_pool_is_last_frag() Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14  4:33   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-14 11:55     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-12 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/5] page_pool: introduce page_pool_alloc() API Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-13 13:08   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-13 13:11     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-14  3:17       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-12 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14 17:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-14 17:19     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-15  7:17     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-15  7:17       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-15 16:51       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-15 16:51         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-15 18:26         ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-15 18:26           ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-16 12:20           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-16 12:20             ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-16 15:01             ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-16 15:01               ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-16 18:59               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-16 18:59                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-16 19:21                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16 19:21                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-16 20:42                   ` Memory providers multiplexing (Was: [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-16 20:42                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-19 18:07                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-19 18:07                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-20 15:12                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-20 15:12                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-20 15:39                         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-06-20 15:39                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-30  2:27                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-06-30  2:27                         ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-03  4:20                         ` David Ahern
2023-07-03  4:20                           ` David Ahern
2023-07-03  6:22                           ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-03  6:22                             ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-03 14:45                             ` David Ahern
2023-07-03 14:45                               ` David Ahern
2023-07-03 17:13                               ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-03 17:13                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-03 17:23                                 ` David Ahern
2023-07-03 17:23                                   ` David Ahern
2023-07-06  1:19                                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-06  1:19                                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-03 17:15                               ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-03 17:15                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-03 17:25                                 ` David Ahern
2023-07-03 17:25                                   ` David Ahern
2023-07-03 21:43                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-03 21:43                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-06  1:17                               ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-06  1:17                                 ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-10 17:44                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-10 17:44                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-10 23:02                                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-10 23:02                                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-10 23:49                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-10 23:49                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11  0:45                                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-11  0:45                                         ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-11 13:11                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 13:11                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 17:24                                           ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-11 17:24                                             ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-11  4:27                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11  4:27                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11  4:59                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11  4:59                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11  5:04                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11  5:04                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11 12:05                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 12:05                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 16:00                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 16:00                                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 16:20                                                 ` David Ahern
2023-07-11 16:20                                                   ` David Ahern
2023-07-11 16:32                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 16:32                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 17:06                                                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-11 17:06                                                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-11 20:39                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 20:39                                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 21:39                                                         ` David Ahern
2023-07-11 21:39                                                           ` David Ahern
2023-07-12  3:42                                                           ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-12  3:42                                                             ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-12  7:55                                                             ` Christian König
2023-07-12  7:55                                                               ` Christian König
2023-07-12 13:03                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-12 13:03                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-12 13:35                                                                 ` Christian König
2023-07-12 13:35                                                                   ` Christian König
2023-07-12 22:41                                                                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-12 22:41                                                                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-12 13:01                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-12 13:01                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-12 20:16                                                               ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-12 20:16                                                                 ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-12 23:57                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-12 23:57                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-13  7:56                                                                 ` Christian König
2023-07-13  7:56                                                                   ` Christian König
2023-07-14 14:55                                                                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-14 14:55                                                                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-14 15:18                                                                     ` David Ahern
2023-07-14 15:18                                                                       ` David Ahern
2023-07-17  2:05                                                                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-17  2:05                                                                         ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-17  3:08                                                                         ` David Ahern
2023-07-17  3:08                                                                           ` David Ahern
2023-07-14 15:55                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-14 15:55                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-17  1:53                                                                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-17  1:53                                                                         ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-24 14:56                                                                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-07-24 16:28                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-25  4:04                                                                           ` Mina Almasry
2023-07-26 17:36                                                                             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-07-11 16:42                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 16:42                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 17:06                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 17:06                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 18:52                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 18:52                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 20:34                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 20:34                                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 23:56                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11 23:56                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-11  6:52                                       ` Dan Williams
2023-07-11  6:52                                         ` Dan Williams
2023-07-06 16:50                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-06 16:50                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-17 12:19               ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-17 12:19                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-15 13:59     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-15 13:59       ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-12 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next v4 5/5] page_pool: update document about frag API Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14  4:40   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-14 12:04     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-06-14 16:56       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-15  6:49         ` Yunsheng Lin

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