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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"virtio@lists.oasis-open.org" <virtio@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [RFC] virtio 1.3 schedule
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:35:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230629153345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54819136AEC54AA081DD395ADC25A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 05:41:34PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> Hi Cornelia, Michael,
> 
> > From: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-
> > open.org> On Behalf Of Cornelia Huck
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 12:17 PM
> 
> > >> - July 1st 2023: enter feature freeze; all proposed changes must at
> > >>   least have an open github issue that refers to a proposal on-list
> > >> - August 1st 2023: enter change freeze; everything needs to have been
> > >>   voted upon (i.e. we can start with preparations for a release like
> > >>   compiling the change log)
> > >> - at the same time, fork virtio-next, which can be used for development
> > >>   while we're working on the release
> > >> - August/September 2023: prepare draft, initiate initial voting etc.
> > >
> > > Hmm looks like you forgot a 30 day the public review period (or is
> > > that included in the "etc"? ).  During this period we will likely
> > > receive review comments which we have to address. Should the changes
> > > turn out to be material, another public review period will be required.
> > > Let's spell it out please.
> > 
> > Yeah, that's what I meant with "etc"... let's make this:
> > 
> > - August 2023: prepare draft, aim to have it ready and voted upon by
> >   August 31 the latest (preferrably earlier)
> > - September 2023: public review period (30 days)
> > - October 2023: another public review period, if needed; otherwise, get
> >   comittee specification ready and voted upon
> > - October (maybe November, if we're running late) 2023: virtio 1.3
> >   released
> > 
> > The most important dates are feature freeze on Jul 1 and change freeze on Aug
> > 1, I guess; for the rest, we depend on whether people are out on PTO, which
> > kind of feedback we get, etc. -- but as long as we release
> > 1.3 in 2023, I'll be happy enough.
> 
> We have two extension features that has gone through several reviews and are in advance stage (and also late) for 1.3. :)
> 
> 1. inner hash v19, rolling to v20 anytime this week. 1 Patch.
> [1] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/202306/msg00490.html
> 
> 2. first user of aq for legacy access at v7.
> 2 patches. First 2 are Fixes.
> [2] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/202306/msg00491.html
> 
> Both need few more days of review and vote.
> Shall we please have few days in July for them so that it can be part of 1.3? 
> or whole July is needed to prepare the draft spec?

I think it's not too bad, projects that do releases every couple of
months can afford to be strict, we do them ones a year and a half
it makes sense to be flexible.

-- 
MST


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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"virtio@lists.oasis-open.org" <virtio@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] [RFC] virtio 1.3 schedule
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:35:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230629153345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54819136AEC54AA081DD395ADC25A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 05:41:34PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> Hi Cornelia, Michael,
> 
> > From: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-
> > open.org> On Behalf Of Cornelia Huck
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 12:17 PM
> 
> > >> - July 1st 2023: enter feature freeze; all proposed changes must at
> > >>   least have an open github issue that refers to a proposal on-list
> > >> - August 1st 2023: enter change freeze; everything needs to have been
> > >>   voted upon (i.e. we can start with preparations for a release like
> > >>   compiling the change log)
> > >> - at the same time, fork virtio-next, which can be used for development
> > >>   while we're working on the release
> > >> - August/September 2023: prepare draft, initiate initial voting etc.
> > >
> > > Hmm looks like you forgot a 30 day the public review period (or is
> > > that included in the "etc"? ).  During this period we will likely
> > > receive review comments which we have to address. Should the changes
> > > turn out to be material, another public review period will be required.
> > > Let's spell it out please.
> > 
> > Yeah, that's what I meant with "etc"... let's make this:
> > 
> > - August 2023: prepare draft, aim to have it ready and voted upon by
> >   August 31 the latest (preferrably earlier)
> > - September 2023: public review period (30 days)
> > - October 2023: another public review period, if needed; otherwise, get
> >   comittee specification ready and voted upon
> > - October (maybe November, if we're running late) 2023: virtio 1.3
> >   released
> > 
> > The most important dates are feature freeze on Jul 1 and change freeze on Aug
> > 1, I guess; for the rest, we depend on whether people are out on PTO, which
> > kind of feedback we get, etc. -- but as long as we release
> > 1.3 in 2023, I'll be happy enough.
> 
> We have two extension features that has gone through several reviews and are in advance stage (and also late) for 1.3. :)
> 
> 1. inner hash v19, rolling to v20 anytime this week. 1 Patch.
> [1] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/202306/msg00490.html
> 
> 2. first user of aq for legacy access at v7.
> 2 patches. First 2 are Fixes.
> [2] https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/202306/msg00491.html
> 
> Both need few more days of review and vote.
> Shall we please have few days in July for them so that it can be part of 1.3? 
> or whole July is needed to prepare the draft spec?

I think it's not too bad, projects that do releases every couple of
months can afford to be strict, we do them ones a year and a half
it makes sense to be flexible.

-- 
MST


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-29 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-05 13:57 [virtio-comment] [RFC] virtio 1.3 schedule Cornelia Huck
2023-04-05 13:57 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-05 14:05 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 14:05   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 19:23 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-05 19:23   ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-07 11:24 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 11:24   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-12 16:16   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-12 16:16     ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-06-29 17:41     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-29 17:41       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-29 19:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-29 19:35         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30  8:47         ` Cornelia Huck
2023-06-30  8:47           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-06-30  8:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30  8:55             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-30 11:14           ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-30 11:14             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit

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