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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
Cc: airlied@gmail.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, tzimmermann@suse.de,
	mripard@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, christian.koenig@amd.com,
	bskeggs@redhat.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	matthew.brost@intel.com, alexdeucher@gmail.com,
	ogabbay@kernel.org, bagasdotme@gmail.com, willy@infradead.org,
	jason@jlekstrand.net, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Donald Robson <donald.robson@imgtec.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-next v6 02/13] drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 18:17:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230706181739.57afbcfa@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <755b3aeb-8067-2fa5-5173-d889811e954a@redhat.com>

On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 17:06:08 +0200
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> On 6/30/23 10:02, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > Hi Danilo,
> > 
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:25:18 +0200
> > Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> + *	int driver_gpuva_remap(struct drm_gpuva_op *op, void *__ctx)
> >> + *	{
> >> + *		struct driver_context *ctx = __ctx;
> >> + *
> >> + *		drm_gpuva_remap(ctx->prev_va, ctx->next_va, &op->remap);
> >> + *
> >> + *		drm_gpuva_unlink(op->remap.unmap->va);
> >> + *		kfree(op->remap.unmap->va);
> >> + *
> >> + *		if (op->remap.prev) {
> >> + *			drm_gpuva_link(ctx->prev_va);  
> > 
> > I ended up switching to dma_resv-based locking for the GEMs and I
> > wonder what the locking is supposed to look like in the async-mapping
> > case, where we insert/remove the VA nodes in the drm_sched::run_job()
> > path.  
> 
> If you decide to pick the interface where you just call 
> drm_gpuva_sm_[un]map() and receive a callback for each operation it 
> takes to fulfill the request, you probably do this because you want to 
> do everything one shot, updating the VA space, link/unlink GPUVAs 
> to/from its corresponding backing GEMs, do the actual GPU mappings.
> 
> This has a few advantages over generating a list of operations when the 
> job is submitted. You've pointed out one of them, when you noticed that 
> with a list of operations one can't sneak in a synchronous job between 
> already queued up asynchronous jobs.
> 
> However, for the asynchronous path it has the limitation that the 
> dma-resv lock can't be used to link/unlink GPUVAs to/from its 
> corresponding backing GEMs, since this would happen in the fence 
> signalling critical path and we're not allowed to hold the dma-resv lock 
> there. Hence, as we discussed I added the option for drivers to provide 
> an external lock for that, just to be able to keep some lockdep checks.

Uh, okay, I guess that means I need to go back to a custom lock for VM
operations then.

> 
> > 
> > What I have right now is something like:
> > 
> > 	dma_resv_lock(vm->resv);
> > 
> > 	// split done in drm_gpuva_sm_map(), each iteration
> > 	// of the loop is a call to the driver ->[re,un]map()
> > 	// hook
> > 	for_each_sub_op() {
> > 		
> > 		// Private BOs have their resv field pointing to the
> > 		// VM resv and we take the VM resv lock before calling
> > 		// drm_gpuva_sm_map()
> > 		if (vm->resv != gem->resv)
> > 			dma_resv_lock(gem->resv);
> > 
> > 		drm_gpuva_[un]link(va);
> > 		gem_[un]pin(gem);
> > 
> > 		if (vm->resv != gem->resv)
> > 			dma_resv_unlock(gem->resv);
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	dma_resv_unlock(vm->resv);
> >   
> 
> I'm not sure I get this code right, reading "for_each_sub_op()" and 
> "drm_gpuva_sm_map()" looks a bit like things are mixed up?
> 
> Or do you mean to represent the sum of all callbacks with 
> "for_each_sub_op()"?

That ^.

> In this case I assume this code runs in 
> drm_sched::run_job() and hence isn't allowed to take the dma-resv lock.

Yeah, I didn't realize that taking the dma-resv lock in the
dma-signaling path was forbidden. I think it's fine for the drm_gpuva
destroy operation (which calls drm_gem_shmem_unpin(), which in turns
acquires the resv lock) because I can move that to a worker and get it
out of the dma-signaling path. The problem remains for remap operations
though. I need to call drm_gem_shmem_pin() so we retain the pages even
after the unmapped gpuva object that's in the middle of a mapping is
released. I guess one option would be to use an atomic_t for
drm_shmem_gem_object::pages_use_count, and
have something like:

int drm_gem_shmem_pin(struct drm_gem_shmem_object *shmem)
{
	int ret;

	if (atomic_inc_not_zero(&shmem->pages_use_count))
		return 0;

	dma_resv_lock(shmem->base.resv, NULL);
	ret = drm_gem_shmem_pin_locked(shmem);
	dma_resv_unlock(shmem->base.resv);

	return ret;
}

Given the object already had its pages pinned when we remap, we're sure
the fast path will be taken, and no dma-resv lock aquired.

> 
> > In practice, I don't expect things to deadlock, because the VM resv is
> > not supposed to be taken outside the VM context and the locking order
> > is always the same (VM lock first, and then each shared BO
> > taken/released independently), but I'm not super thrilled by this
> > nested lock, and I'm wondering if we shouldn't have a pass collecting
> > locks in a drm_exec context first, and then have
> > the operations executed. IOW, something like that:
> > 
> > 	drm_exec_init(exec, DRM_EXEC_IGNORE_DUPLICATES)
> > 	drm_exec_until_all_locked(exec) {
> > 		// Dummy GEM is the dummy GEM object I use to make the VM
> > 		// participate in the locking without having to teach
> > 		// drm_exec how to deal with raw dma_resv objects.
> > 		ret = drm_exec_lock_obj(exec, vm->dummy_gem);
> > 		drm_exec_retry_on_contention(exec);
> > 		if (ret)
> > 			return ret;
> > 
> > 		// Could take the form of drm_gpuva_sm_[un]map_acquire_locks()
> > 		// helpers
> > 		for_each_sub_op() {
> > 			ret = drm_exec_lock_obj(exec, gem);
> > 			if (ret)
> > 				return ret;
> > 		}
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	// each iteration of the loop is a call to the driver
> > 	// ->[re,un]map() hook
> > 	for_each_sub_op() {
> > 		...
> > 		gem_[un]pin_locked(gem);
> > 		drm_gpuva_[un]link(va);
> > 		...
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	drm_exec_fini(exec);  
> 
> I have a follow-up patch (still WIP) in the queue to generalize dma-resv 
> handling, fence handling and GEM validation within the GPUVA manager as 
> optional helper functions: 
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/nouvelles/kernel/-/commit/a5fc29f3b1edbf3f96fb5a21b858ffe00a3f2584

Thanks for the heads-up. That's more or less what I have, except I'm
attaching a dummy_gem object to the VM so it can be passed to drm_exec
directly (instead of having a separate ww_acquire_ctx).

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
Cc: matthew.brost@intel.com, willy@infradead.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, ogabbay@kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mripard@kernel.org, bskeggs@redhat.com, tzimmermann@suse.de,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	bagasdotme@gmail.com, christian.koenig@amd.com,
	jason@jlekstrand.net, Donald Robson <donald.robson@imgtec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-next v6 02/13] drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 18:17:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230706181739.57afbcfa@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <755b3aeb-8067-2fa5-5173-d889811e954a@redhat.com>

On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 17:06:08 +0200
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> On 6/30/23 10:02, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > Hi Danilo,
> > 
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:25:18 +0200
> > Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> + *	int driver_gpuva_remap(struct drm_gpuva_op *op, void *__ctx)
> >> + *	{
> >> + *		struct driver_context *ctx = __ctx;
> >> + *
> >> + *		drm_gpuva_remap(ctx->prev_va, ctx->next_va, &op->remap);
> >> + *
> >> + *		drm_gpuva_unlink(op->remap.unmap->va);
> >> + *		kfree(op->remap.unmap->va);
> >> + *
> >> + *		if (op->remap.prev) {
> >> + *			drm_gpuva_link(ctx->prev_va);  
> > 
> > I ended up switching to dma_resv-based locking for the GEMs and I
> > wonder what the locking is supposed to look like in the async-mapping
> > case, where we insert/remove the VA nodes in the drm_sched::run_job()
> > path.  
> 
> If you decide to pick the interface where you just call 
> drm_gpuva_sm_[un]map() and receive a callback for each operation it 
> takes to fulfill the request, you probably do this because you want to 
> do everything one shot, updating the VA space, link/unlink GPUVAs 
> to/from its corresponding backing GEMs, do the actual GPU mappings.
> 
> This has a few advantages over generating a list of operations when the 
> job is submitted. You've pointed out one of them, when you noticed that 
> with a list of operations one can't sneak in a synchronous job between 
> already queued up asynchronous jobs.
> 
> However, for the asynchronous path it has the limitation that the 
> dma-resv lock can't be used to link/unlink GPUVAs to/from its 
> corresponding backing GEMs, since this would happen in the fence 
> signalling critical path and we're not allowed to hold the dma-resv lock 
> there. Hence, as we discussed I added the option for drivers to provide 
> an external lock for that, just to be able to keep some lockdep checks.

Uh, okay, I guess that means I need to go back to a custom lock for VM
operations then.

> 
> > 
> > What I have right now is something like:
> > 
> > 	dma_resv_lock(vm->resv);
> > 
> > 	// split done in drm_gpuva_sm_map(), each iteration
> > 	// of the loop is a call to the driver ->[re,un]map()
> > 	// hook
> > 	for_each_sub_op() {
> > 		
> > 		// Private BOs have their resv field pointing to the
> > 		// VM resv and we take the VM resv lock before calling
> > 		// drm_gpuva_sm_map()
> > 		if (vm->resv != gem->resv)
> > 			dma_resv_lock(gem->resv);
> > 
> > 		drm_gpuva_[un]link(va);
> > 		gem_[un]pin(gem);
> > 
> > 		if (vm->resv != gem->resv)
> > 			dma_resv_unlock(gem->resv);
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	dma_resv_unlock(vm->resv);
> >   
> 
> I'm not sure I get this code right, reading "for_each_sub_op()" and 
> "drm_gpuva_sm_map()" looks a bit like things are mixed up?
> 
> Or do you mean to represent the sum of all callbacks with 
> "for_each_sub_op()"?

That ^.

> In this case I assume this code runs in 
> drm_sched::run_job() and hence isn't allowed to take the dma-resv lock.

Yeah, I didn't realize that taking the dma-resv lock in the
dma-signaling path was forbidden. I think it's fine for the drm_gpuva
destroy operation (which calls drm_gem_shmem_unpin(), which in turns
acquires the resv lock) because I can move that to a worker and get it
out of the dma-signaling path. The problem remains for remap operations
though. I need to call drm_gem_shmem_pin() so we retain the pages even
after the unmapped gpuva object that's in the middle of a mapping is
released. I guess one option would be to use an atomic_t for
drm_shmem_gem_object::pages_use_count, and
have something like:

int drm_gem_shmem_pin(struct drm_gem_shmem_object *shmem)
{
	int ret;

	if (atomic_inc_not_zero(&shmem->pages_use_count))
		return 0;

	dma_resv_lock(shmem->base.resv, NULL);
	ret = drm_gem_shmem_pin_locked(shmem);
	dma_resv_unlock(shmem->base.resv);

	return ret;
}

Given the object already had its pages pinned when we remap, we're sure
the fast path will be taken, and no dma-resv lock aquired.

> 
> > In practice, I don't expect things to deadlock, because the VM resv is
> > not supposed to be taken outside the VM context and the locking order
> > is always the same (VM lock first, and then each shared BO
> > taken/released independently), but I'm not super thrilled by this
> > nested lock, and I'm wondering if we shouldn't have a pass collecting
> > locks in a drm_exec context first, and then have
> > the operations executed. IOW, something like that:
> > 
> > 	drm_exec_init(exec, DRM_EXEC_IGNORE_DUPLICATES)
> > 	drm_exec_until_all_locked(exec) {
> > 		// Dummy GEM is the dummy GEM object I use to make the VM
> > 		// participate in the locking without having to teach
> > 		// drm_exec how to deal with raw dma_resv objects.
> > 		ret = drm_exec_lock_obj(exec, vm->dummy_gem);
> > 		drm_exec_retry_on_contention(exec);
> > 		if (ret)
> > 			return ret;
> > 
> > 		// Could take the form of drm_gpuva_sm_[un]map_acquire_locks()
> > 		// helpers
> > 		for_each_sub_op() {
> > 			ret = drm_exec_lock_obj(exec, gem);
> > 			if (ret)
> > 				return ret;
> > 		}
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	// each iteration of the loop is a call to the driver
> > 	// ->[re,un]map() hook
> > 	for_each_sub_op() {
> > 		...
> > 		gem_[un]pin_locked(gem);
> > 		drm_gpuva_[un]link(va);
> > 		...
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	drm_exec_fini(exec);  
> 
> I have a follow-up patch (still WIP) in the queue to generalize dma-resv 
> handling, fence handling and GEM validation within the GPUVA manager as 
> optional helper functions: 
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/nouvelles/kernel/-/commit/a5fc29f3b1edbf3f96fb5a21b858ffe00a3f2584

Thanks for the heads-up. That's more or less what I have, except I'm
attaching a dummy_gem object to the VM so it can be passed to drm_exec
directly (instead of having a separate ww_acquire_ctx).

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-29 22:25 [PATCH drm-next v6 00/13] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 01/13] drm: execution context for GEM buffers v5 Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 02/13] drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-30  8:02   ` Boris Brezillon
2023-06-30  8:02     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-06-30  8:09     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-06-30  8:09       ` Boris Brezillon
2023-06-30  9:40     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-06-30  9:40       ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-06 15:06     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 15:06       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 15:06       ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 16:17       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2023-07-06 16:17         ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-06  8:49   ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-07-06  8:49     ` [Nouveau] " Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-07-06 15:48     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 15:48       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 15:48       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 17:30       ` [Nouveau] " Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-07-06 17:30         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-07-06 17:30         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-07-06 15:45   ` Donald Robson
2023-07-06 15:45     ` Donald Robson
2023-07-06 15:45     ` [Nouveau] " Donald Robson
2023-07-06 15:52     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 15:52       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 15:52       ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-06 18:26   ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-06 18:26     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-07  7:57     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-07  7:57       ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-07 12:32       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-07 12:32         ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-07 12:32         ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-07 11:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-07 11:00     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-07 12:41     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-07 12:41       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-07 12:41       ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-07-07 12:52       ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-07 12:52         ` Boris Brezillon
2023-07-08  6:39         ` Matthew Brost
2023-07-08  6:39           ` Matthew Brost
2023-07-08  6:39           ` [Nouveau] " Matthew Brost
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 03/13] drm: debugfs: provide infrastructure to dump a DRM GPU VA space Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 04/13] drm/nouveau: new VM_BIND uapi interfaces Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 05/13] drm/nouveau: get vmm via nouveau_cli_vmm() Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 06/13] drm/nouveau: bo: initialize GEM GPU VA interface Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 07/13] drm/nouveau: move usercopy helpers to nouveau_drv.h Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 08/13] drm/nouveau: fence: separate fence alloc and emit Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 09/13] drm/nouveau: fence: fail to emit when fence context is killed Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 10/13] drm/nouveau: chan: provide nouveau_channel_kill() Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 11/13] drm/nouveau: nvkm/vmm: implement raw ops to manage uvmm Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 12/13] drm/nouveau: implement new VM_BIND uAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25 ` [PATCH drm-next v6 13/13] drm/nouveau: debugfs: implement DRM GPU VA debugfs Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-06-29 22:25   ` [Nouveau] " Danilo Krummrich

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