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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"David S.  Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo  Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel  Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v11 05/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev()
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 19:36:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230731193606.25233ed9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1690855424.7821567-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:03:44 +0800 Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > Virtio is either a SW
> > construct or offloaded to very capable HW, so either way cost of
> > creating an extra instance for DPDK or whatever else is very low.  
> 
> The extra instance is virtio-net?
> 
> I think there is a gap. So let me give you a brief introduction of our case.
> 
> Firstly, we donot use dpdk. We use the AF_XDP, because of that the AF_XDP is
> more simpler and easy to deploy for the nginx.
> 
> We use the AF_XDP to speedup the UDP of the quic. By the library, the APP just
> needs some simple change.
> 
> On the AliYun, the net driver is virtio-net. So we want the virtio-net support
> the AF_XDP.
> 
> I guess what you mean is that we can speed up through the cooperation of devices
> and drivers, but our machines are public clouds, and we cannot change the
> back-end devices of virtio under normal circumstances.
> 
> Here I do not know the different of the real hw and the virtio-net.

You have this working and benchmarked or this is just and idea?

What about io_uring zero copy w/ pre-registered buffers.
You'll get csum offload, GSO, all the normal perf features.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-01  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 176+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-10  3:42 [PATCH vhost v11 00/10] virtio core prepares for AF_XDP Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 01/10] virtio_ring: check use_dma_api before unmap desc for indirect Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 02/10] virtio_ring: put mapping error check in vring_map_one_sg Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 03/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_set_premapped() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:24   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  8:35     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:35       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13 11:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 11:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 14:47     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-13 14:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20  6:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 14:52     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-13 14:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 04/10] virtio_ring: support add premapped buf Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:31   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  8:31     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  8:33     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:33       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 05/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:33   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  8:33     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13 11:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 11:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 14:51     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-13 14:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20  6:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:45         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  6:45           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  6:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  7:34             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  7:34               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-24 20:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-24 20:05                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 17:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 17:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-24 16:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-24 16:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-25  2:13             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-25  2:13               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-25  7:34               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-25  7:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-25 11:07                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-25 11:07                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-28  6:02                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-28  6:02                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-28 15:03                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-31  1:23                       ` Jason Wang
2023-07-31  1:23                         ` Jason Wang
2023-07-31 15:46                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-01  2:03                           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01  2:03                             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01  2:36                             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-08-01  2:57                               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01  2:57                                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01 15:45                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-02  1:36                                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-02  1:36                                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-02 11:12                                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-07-31  2:34                       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-31  2:34                         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-01 16:17                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-01 16:17                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02  1:49                       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-02  1:49                         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-07  6:14                         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-07  6:14                           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08  2:26                           ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  2:26                             ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  2:47                             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08  2:47                               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08  3:08                               ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  3:08                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  3:09                                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08  3:09                                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08  3:49                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  3:49                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  3:54                                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-08  3:59                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  3:59                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-08-08  4:07                                         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-10  1:56                           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-10  1:56                             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-10  6:37                             ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10  6:37                               ` Jason Wang
2023-08-10  6:40                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10  6:40                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10  6:39                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10  6:39                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10  6:47                               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-08-10  6:47                                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 06/10] virtio_ring: skip unmap for premapped Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  3:50   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13  3:50     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13  4:02     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  4:02       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  4:21       ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13  4:21         ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13  5:45         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  5:45           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 07/10] virtio_ring: correct the expression of the description of virtqueue_resize() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 08/10] virtio_ring: separate the logic of reset/enable from virtqueue_resize Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 09/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_reset() Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42 ` [PATCH vhost v11 10/10] virtio_net: merge dma operation for one page Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  3:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10  9:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10  9:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 10:18     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 10:18       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 11:59       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 11:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-10 12:38         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-10 12:38           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-11  2:36           ` Jason Wang
2023-07-11  2:36             ` Jason Wang
2023-07-11  2:40             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-11  2:40               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-11  2:58               ` Jason Wang
2023-07-11  2:58                 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  7:54                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  7:54                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:32                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:32                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:37                     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  8:37                       ` Jason Wang
2023-07-12  8:38                       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-12  8:38                         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14 10:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-14 10:37                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-19  3:21                           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-19  3:21                             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-19  8:55                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-19  8:55                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-19  9:38                               ` Jason Wang
2023-07-19  9:38                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-07-19  9:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-19  9:51                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20  2:26                                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  2:26                                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  2:24                               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  2:24                                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  4:20   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13  4:20     ` Jason Wang
2023-07-13  5:53     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  5:53       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  6:51     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  6:51       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14  3:56       ` Jason Wang
2023-07-14  3:56         ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20  6:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  7:41           ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20  7:41             ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20  8:21             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  8:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13  7:00     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-13  7:00       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14  3:57       ` Jason Wang
2023-07-14  3:57         ` Jason Wang
2023-07-14  3:58         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14  3:58           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-14  5:45           ` Jason Wang
2023-07-14  5:45             ` Jason Wang

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