From: Guru Das Srinagesh <quic_gurus@quicinc.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nicolas Schier <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
"Konstantin Ryabitsev" <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
<krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
<quic_pkondeti@quicinc.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kernel@quicinc.com>, <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
<tools@linux.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Guru Das Srinagesh" <quic_gurus@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] scripts: Add add-maintainer.py
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 16:16:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230829231638.GA27843@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <670a87e9-2f0c-ec9e-ebb4-9041c8972ace@linaro.org>
On Aug 28 2023 21:45, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 28/08/2023 21:41, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 07:59:54PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 28/08/2023 19:56, Guru Das Srinagesh wrote:
> >
> >>> Your function adds mailing lists also in "To:" which is not ideal, in my view.
> >>> You've mentioned before that To or Cc doesn't matter [1] which I disagree
> >>> with: it doesn't matter, why does Cc exist as a concept at all?
> >
> >> To/Cc does not matter when sending new patch, because maintainers know
> >> they are maintainers of which parts. I know what I handle.
> >
> > That might be true for you (and also is for me) but I know there are
> > people who pay attention to if they're in the To: for various reasons, I
> > gather it's mostly about triaging their emails and is especially likely
> > in cases where trees have overlaps in the code they cover.
>
> True, there can be cases where people pay attention to addresses of
> emails. Just like there are cases where people pay attention to "To/Cc"
> difference.
>
> In my short experience with a few patches sent, no one complained to me
> that I put him/her/they in "To" field of a patch instead of "Cc" (with
> remark to not spamming to much, so imagine I send a patch for regulator
> and DTS). Big, multi-subsystem patchsets are different case and this
> script does not solve it either.
Not sure what you mean by "does not solve it" - what is the problem being
referred to here?
In case of multi-subsystem patches in a series, the commit message of this
patch explains exactly the actions taken.
> Anyway, if it is not ideal for Guru, I wonder how his LKML maintainer
> filters work that it is not ideal? What is exactly not ideal in
> maintainer workflow?
I am not a maintainer - only an individual contributor - and as such, even
though I may get patches on files I've contributed to, I deeply appreciate the
distinction between being Cc-ed in a patch vs To-ed in one. The distinction
being that if I'm in "To:" I ascribe higher priority to it and lesser if I'm in
"Cc:".
If this script is accepted and gains adoption, maintainers like yourself will
only be To-ed in patches that touch files that you're a direct "Maintainer" or
"Reviewer" of. For all other patches in the series you'll be in "Cc:". I
imagine that this can be very useful regardless of the specifics of your
workflow.
Also, lists should just be in "Cc:" - that's just my personal preference, but
one that I'm sure others also share.
Guru Das.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Guru Das Srinagesh <quic_gurus@quicinc.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nicolas Schier <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
"Konstantin Ryabitsev" <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
<krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
<quic_pkondeti@quicinc.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kernel@quicinc.com>, <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
<tools@linux.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Guru Das Srinagesh" <quic_gurus@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] scripts: Add add-maintainer.py
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 16:16:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230829231638.GA27843@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <670a87e9-2f0c-ec9e-ebb4-9041c8972ace@linaro.org>
On Aug 28 2023 21:45, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 28/08/2023 21:41, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 07:59:54PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 28/08/2023 19:56, Guru Das Srinagesh wrote:
> >
> >>> Your function adds mailing lists also in "To:" which is not ideal, in my view.
> >>> You've mentioned before that To or Cc doesn't matter [1] which I disagree
> >>> with: it doesn't matter, why does Cc exist as a concept at all?
> >
> >> To/Cc does not matter when sending new patch, because maintainers know
> >> they are maintainers of which parts. I know what I handle.
> >
> > That might be true for you (and also is for me) but I know there are
> > people who pay attention to if they're in the To: for various reasons, I
> > gather it's mostly about triaging their emails and is especially likely
> > in cases where trees have overlaps in the code they cover.
>
> True, there can be cases where people pay attention to addresses of
> emails. Just like there are cases where people pay attention to "To/Cc"
> difference.
>
> In my short experience with a few patches sent, no one complained to me
> that I put him/her/they in "To" field of a patch instead of "Cc" (with
> remark to not spamming to much, so imagine I send a patch for regulator
> and DTS). Big, multi-subsystem patchsets are different case and this
> script does not solve it either.
Not sure what you mean by "does not solve it" - what is the problem being
referred to here?
In case of multi-subsystem patches in a series, the commit message of this
patch explains exactly the actions taken.
> Anyway, if it is not ideal for Guru, I wonder how his LKML maintainer
> filters work that it is not ideal? What is exactly not ideal in
> maintainer workflow?
I am not a maintainer - only an individual contributor - and as such, even
though I may get patches on files I've contributed to, I deeply appreciate the
distinction between being Cc-ed in a patch vs To-ed in one. The distinction
being that if I'm in "To:" I ascribe higher priority to it and lesser if I'm in
"Cc:".
If this script is accepted and gains adoption, maintainers like yourself will
only be To-ed in patches that touch files that you're a direct "Maintainer" or
"Reviewer" of. For all other patches in the series you'll be in "Cc:". I
imagine that this can be very useful regardless of the specifics of your
workflow.
Also, lists should just be in "Cc:" - that's just my personal preference, but
one that I'm sure others also share.
Guru Das.
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-26 8:07 [PATCH v3 0/1] Add add-maintainer.py script Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-26 8:07 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-26 8:07 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] scripts: Add add-maintainer.py Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-26 8:07 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-27 16:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2023-08-27 16:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2023-08-28 16:45 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-28 16:45 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-28 8:14 ` Jani Nikula
2023-08-28 8:14 ` Jani Nikula
2023-08-28 13:35 ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-28 13:35 ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-28 13:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 13:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-28 15:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-08-28 15:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-08-28 15:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 15:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 16:50 ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-28 16:50 ` Bjorn Andersson
2023-08-29 7:38 ` Jani Nikula
2023-08-29 7:38 ` Jani Nikula
2023-08-28 16:50 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-28 16:50 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-28 8:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 8:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 17:56 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-28 17:56 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-28 17:59 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 17:59 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 19:41 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-28 19:41 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-28 19:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-28 19:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-29 23:16 ` Guru Das Srinagesh [this message]
2023-08-29 23:16 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-08-30 7:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-30 7:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-30 11:22 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-30 11:22 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-30 14:16 ` Jeff Johnson
2023-08-30 14:16 ` Jeff Johnson
2023-09-27 4:51 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-09-27 4:51 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-09-27 22:44 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-09-27 22:44 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-09-26 12:02 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-09-26 12:02 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-09-27 4:54 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-09-27 4:54 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-09-27 22:47 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
2023-09-27 22:47 ` Guru Das Srinagesh
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