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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"sburla@marvell.com" <sburla@marvell.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v1 3/8] device-context: Define the device context fields for device migration
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:49:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231013093939-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db0719f9-7dc2-4a96-b10b-ecc3dac1a82b@intel.com>

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 05:44:27PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
> > As Michael said, software based nesting is used..
> > See if actual hw based devices can implement it or not. Many components of cpu cannot do N level nesting either, but may be virtio can.
> > I don’t know how yet.
> two facts:
> 1. virito works for nested for years
> 2. your admin vq lm solution does not work for nested

First virtio works but nested migration doesn't: the way virtio works doesn't
allow L1 hypervisor to migrate L2 if it passes virtio through to L2,
except by using full emulation approaches such as shadow vq -
surely, these are still possible.

Second doesn't work is an overstatement.  It remains to be seen what else can
be done though.  You hinted at a depdenency on PASID.  Have owner be a
PASID and Parav's approach seems to work with little to no change.

-- 
MST



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-13 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 341+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-08 11:25 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 0/8] Introduce device migration support commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 1/8] admin: Add theory of operation for device migration Parav Pandit
2023-10-09  8:49   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-09 10:06     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10  5:51       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-10  7:19         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 12:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 13:08             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 14:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 14:09                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 14:55                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  3:14           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-11  6:02             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 10:47             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 20:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:21                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-13  1:15               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13  6:36                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17  1:41                   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18  8:16                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:19                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:33                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  2:41                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13 11:41                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 12:02     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 16:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 17:21         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10  8:57           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-10  9:40             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 10:25               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11 11:43                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 10:21                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 10:58                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 11:17                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:47                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 13:05                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13  1:16                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13  6:36                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17  1:53                           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17  2:02                             ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17  3:19                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17  3:26                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  0:52                               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18  4:30                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:14                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18  6:26                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  2:41                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-19  4:29                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  4:44                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-19  5:31                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  6:35                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  7:30                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  8:31                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  8:58                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:11                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  9:20                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:26                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  9:33                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  9:41                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:53                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  9:54                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 10:00                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 10:01                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:39                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:49                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  9:57                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23  3:45                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23  4:42                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24  4:46                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-24  4:49                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25  1:28                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-25  7:02                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  0:46                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26  3:45                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30  4:06                                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30  4:46                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31  1:34                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-31  5:30                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  0:33                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  3:31                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-02  4:25                                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-02  6:10                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  6:34                                                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-11-06  7:05                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07  4:05                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-07  7:22                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  7:57                                                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07  8:05                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  4:28                                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-09  6:25                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13  3:32                                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:39                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  4:20                                                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-16  5:28                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  6:23                                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  6:34                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  6:38                                                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  6:43                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  6:56                                                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  7:02                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  7:14                                                                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  9:45                                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-21  4:22                                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:25                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:13                                                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  7:48                                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24  3:56                                                                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24  5:40                                                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-21  7:24                                                                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:32                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  5:27                                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  6:05                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:40                                                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-17 10:08                                                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:20                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:11                                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 11:20                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:43                                                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:02                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 12:30                                                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:46                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 13:54                                                                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 14:51                                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 15:09                                                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-21  4:44                                                                                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:27                                                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:16                                                                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  4:39                                                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:08                                                                                                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21  5:25                                                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:30                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:18                                                                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  4:26                                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:07                                                                                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 11:38                                                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:51                                                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 12:10                                                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 12:13                                                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24 12:19                                                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 11:26                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 11:41                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-13 11:52                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 11:57                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17  1:42                           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13  9:06                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-13 11:28                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 11:42                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-16  8:41                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16  9:00                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16  9:44                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-13 11:28                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-13 11:49                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 12:00                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-16  8:46                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16  9:44                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  5:00                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:32                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  6:34                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:39                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  6:42                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 19:51             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:23               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 2/8] admin: Redefine reserved2 as command specific output Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 3/8] device-context: Define the device context fields for device migration Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:41   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09  4:15     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 15:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 17:22         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 10:34     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-09 14:30       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10  8:52         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-10  9:58           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 10:07             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11 10:54               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 19:54                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:00                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 10:06                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:13                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 10:52                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 10:09                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 10:45                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:23                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 11:10                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 11:37                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 13:03                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 13:13                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-13  1:18                         ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13  6:40                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17  2:10                             ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17  3:45                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  0:52                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18  5:28                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  2:41                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18  6:13                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13  9:44                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-13 11:54                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-16  9:47                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  5:02                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:20                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18  6:28                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:35                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  6:41                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:52                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  7:20                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  8:42                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-18  8:53                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18  9:48                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  9:56                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:22                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:47                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:57                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  8:18                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19  8:37                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  8:49                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19  8:55                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-23  3:44                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23  4:42                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24  4:56                                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-10-24 10:01                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25  1:28                                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-10-25  7:15                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25  8:24                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-25  9:50                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:19                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-25 10:22                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:28                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  3:32                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  0:46                                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26  3:50                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30  4:04                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30  4:27                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31  1:36                                                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-10-31  5:17                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  0:33                                                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  3:07                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-02  4:24                                                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-02  6:10                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-02 14:01                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06  6:35                                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-09  6:24                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  8:15                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19  9:01                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:09                                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19  9:13                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19  9:14                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  9:18                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19 10:33                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 11:19                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 12:02                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-20  9:31                                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-20  9:41                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-20 11:11                                                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-20 12:47                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23  9:48                                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 10:01                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 10:14                                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 10:26                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24 10:10                                                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-24 10:11                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-21 15:34                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-23 10:03                                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 11:32                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-24 10:27                                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-25  8:33                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  0:56                                                                           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26  3:58                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30  3:59                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30  4:49                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  6:22                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30  4:02                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  0:33                                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26  6:38                                                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23  3:53                                                               ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23 11:33                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-20 12:54                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 10:09                                                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 10:14                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24 10:30                                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-24 10:37                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  6:44                                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-26  7:04                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30  3:44                                                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-30  4:17                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 10:02                                                                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-30 10:23                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 11:34                                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30 12:02                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31  9:35                                                                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-31  9:42                                                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-31 10:14                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  0:42                                                                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  1:57                                                                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  1:57                                                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  2:54                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  5:31                                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  5:42                                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  6:37                                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  6:39                                                                                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  6:50                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  6:56                                                                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  7:03                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  7:46                                                                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  7:54                                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  8:55                                                                                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  9:07                                                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  9:42                                                                                                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01 10:23                                                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  8:36                                                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 10:24                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  6:47                                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  8:28                                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  8:49                                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01  9:06                                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 10:01                                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 11:27                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30 11:48                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31  9:45                                                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19  9:16                                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19  9:13                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 13:49                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-10-16  9:50                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-02 14:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 14:40     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-02 14:53       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 15:06         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-02 17:05           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 4/8] admin: Add device migration admin commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-18  6:46   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18  8:24     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:26       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:41         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 5/8] admin: Add requirements of device migration commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 6/8] admin: Add theory of operation for write recording commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 7/8] admin: Add " Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:52   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09  4:14     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 10:57       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 11:48         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 16:15           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 17:22             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 8/8] admin: Add requirements of write reporting commands Parav Pandit

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