From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"sburla@marvell.com" <sburla@marvell.com>,
Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 1/8] admin: Add theory of operation for device migration
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:38:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231116013650-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54811F4CE5686AE4BEA826C1DCB0A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 06:34:23AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:53 AM
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 05:28:19AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > You continue to want to overload admin commands for dual purpose, does
> > not make sense to me.
> >
> > dual -> as a transport and for migration? why can't they be used for this? I was
> > really hoping to cover these two cases when I proposed them.
> For following reasons.
>
> 1. migration needs incremental reads of only changed context between two reads
>
> 2. migration writes covers large part of the configurations not just virtio common config and device config.
> Such as configuration occurred through the CVQ. All of these is not needed when done from guest directly via member's own CVQ.
>
> For backward compatible SIOV transport, one may need them to transport without above two properties.
>
> 3. None of this transport is needed for PFs, VFs and non-backward compatible SIOVs.
> Each device to have its own transport that is not intercepted by the hypervisor and follow the equivalency principle uniformly for all 3 device types.
>
To clarify. Above seems to justify why the admin commands for migration
must be distinct from admin commands for transport. But I don't see why
(e.g. two sets of) admin commands can not be used for both. Do you?
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2023-10-08 11:25 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 0/8] Introduce device migration support commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 1/8] admin: Add theory of operation for device migration Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 8:49 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-09 10:06 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 5:51 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-10 7:19 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 12:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 13:08 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 14:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 14:09 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 14:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 3:14 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-11 6:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 10:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:21 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-13 1:15 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13 6:36 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 1:41 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18 8:16 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:33 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 2:41 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13 11:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 12:02 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 16:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 17:21 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 8:57 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-10 9:40 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11 10:25 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11 11:43 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 10:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 10:58 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 11:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 13:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 1:16 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13 6:36 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 1:53 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17 2:02 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17 3:19 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 3:26 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 0:52 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18 4:30 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 6:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 6:26 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 2:41 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-19 4:29 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 4:44 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-19 5:31 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 6:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 7:30 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-19 8:58 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-19 9:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 9:41 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 10:00 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 10:01 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 9:39 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 9:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19 9:57 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 3:45 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23 4:42 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24 4:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-24 4:49 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 1:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-25 7:02 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 0:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26 3:45 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 4:06 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30 4:46 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31 1:34 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-31 5:30 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01 0:33 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01 3:31 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-02 4:25 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-02 6:10 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-11-06 7:05 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 4:05 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-07 7:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 7:57 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 4:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-09 6:25 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 3:32 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:39 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-11-16 5:28 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-13 11:57 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 1:42 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-13 9:06 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-13 11:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2023-10-13 11:28 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-13 12:00 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-11 19:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:23 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 2/8] admin: Redefine reserved2 as command specific output Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 3/8] device-context: Define the device context fields for device migration Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:41 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 4:15 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-13 1:18 ` Jason Wang
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2023-10-18 10:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:57 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-19 8:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-23 3:44 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23 4:42 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-11-09 6:24 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 8:15 ` Zhu, Lingshan
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2023-10-19 10:33 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-20 9:31 ` Zhu, Lingshan
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2023-10-20 12:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 9:48 ` Zhu, Lingshan
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2023-10-23 10:14 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 10:26 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24 10:10 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-24 10:11 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-21 15:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-23 10:03 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 11:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-24 10:27 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-25 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26 0:56 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26 3:58 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 3:59 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30 4:49 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26 6:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30 4:02 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01 0:33 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-26 6:38 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 3:53 ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-20 12:54 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 10:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-23 10:14 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-24 10:30 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-24 10:37 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-26 7:04 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 3:44 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-30 4:17 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-10-30 10:23 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 11:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30 12:02 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31 9:35 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-31 9:42 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-31 10:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2023-11-01 1:57 ` Zhu, Lingshan
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2023-11-01 2:54 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-11-01 6:39 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01 6:50 ` Parav Pandit
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2023-11-01 7:03 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01 7:46 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01 7:54 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01 8:55 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01 9:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 9:42 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01 10:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 8:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 10:24 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01 6:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01 8:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 8:49 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-01 9:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01 10:01 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 11:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30 11:48 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-31 9:45 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19 9:16 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-19 9:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 13:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16 9:50 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-02 14:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 14:40 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-02 14:53 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 15:06 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-02 17:05 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 4/8] admin: Add device migration admin commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 6:46 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 8:24 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:26 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 10:41 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 5/8] admin: Add requirements of device migration commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 6/8] admin: Add theory of operation for write recording commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 7/8] admin: Add " Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:52 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 4:14 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 10:57 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 11:48 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-09 16:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-09 17:22 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-08 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 8/8] admin: Add requirements of write reporting commands Parav Pandit
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