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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] IOMMUFD: Deliver IO page faults to user space
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 13:54:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231107175405.GD4634@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276B1582CED568795725C198CA9A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 08:35:10AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 8:48 PM
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:49:24AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > This series implements the functionality of delivering IO page faults to
> > > user space through the IOMMUFD framework for nested translation.
> > Nested
> > > translation is a hardware feature that supports two-stage translation
> > > tables for IOMMU. The second-stage translation table is managed by the
> > > host VMM, while the first-stage translation table is owned by user
> > > space. This allows user space to control the IOMMU mappings for its
> > > devices.
> > 
> > Having now looked more closely at the ARM requirements it seems we
> > will need generic events, not just page fault events to have a
> > complete emulation.
> 
> Can you elaborate?

There are many events related to object in guest memory or controlled
by the guest, eg C_BAD_CD and C_BAD_STE. These should be relayed or
the emulation is not working well.

> > > User space indicates its capability of handling IO page faults by
> > > setting the IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_IOPF_CAPABLE flag when allocating a
> > > hardware page table (HWPT). IOMMUFD will then set up its infrastructure
> > > for page fault delivery. On a successful return of HWPT allocation, the
> > > user can retrieve and respond to page faults by reading and writing to
> > > the file descriptor (FD) returned in out_fault_fd.
> > 
> > This is the right way to approach it, and more broadly this shouldn't
> > be an iommufd specific thing. Kernel drivers will also need to create
> > fault capable PAGING iommu domains.
> 
> Are you suggesting a common interface used by both iommufd and
> kernel drivers?

Yes
 
> but I didn't get the last piece. If those domains are created by kernel
> drivers why would they require a uAPI for userspace to specify fault
> capable?

Not to userspace, but a kapi to request a fault capable domain and to
supply the fault handler. Eg:

 iommu_domain_alloc_faultable(dev, handler);

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] IOMMUFD: Deliver IO page faults to user space
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 13:54:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231107175405.GD4634@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276B1582CED568795725C198CA9A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 08:35:10AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 8:48 PM
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:49:24AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > This series implements the functionality of delivering IO page faults to
> > > user space through the IOMMUFD framework for nested translation.
> > Nested
> > > translation is a hardware feature that supports two-stage translation
> > > tables for IOMMU. The second-stage translation table is managed by the
> > > host VMM, while the first-stage translation table is owned by user
> > > space. This allows user space to control the IOMMU mappings for its
> > > devices.
> > 
> > Having now looked more closely at the ARM requirements it seems we
> > will need generic events, not just page fault events to have a
> > complete emulation.
> 
> Can you elaborate?

There are many events related to object in guest memory or controlled
by the guest, eg C_BAD_CD and C_BAD_STE. These should be relayed or
the emulation is not working well.

> > > User space indicates its capability of handling IO page faults by
> > > setting the IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_IOPF_CAPABLE flag when allocating a
> > > hardware page table (HWPT). IOMMUFD will then set up its infrastructure
> > > for page fault delivery. On a successful return of HWPT allocation, the
> > > user can retrieve and respond to page faults by reading and writing to
> > > the file descriptor (FD) returned in out_fault_fd.
> > 
> > This is the right way to approach it, and more broadly this shouldn't
> > be an iommufd specific thing. Kernel drivers will also need to create
> > fault capable PAGING iommu domains.
> 
> Are you suggesting a common interface used by both iommufd and
> kernel drivers?

Yes
 
> but I didn't get the last piece. If those domains are created by kernel
> drivers why would they require a uAPI for userspace to specify fault
> capable?

Not to userspace, but a kapi to request a fault capable domain and to
supply the fault handler. Eg:

 iommu_domain_alloc_faultable(dev, handler);

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-07 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231204150747eucas1p2365e92a7ac33ba99b801d7c800acaf6a@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-10-26  2:49 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] IOMMUFD: Deliver IO page faults to user space Lu Baolu
2023-10-26  2:49   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] iommu: Add iommu page fault cookie helpers Lu Baolu
2023-12-01 14:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  6:24       ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-26  2:49   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] iommufd: Add iommu page fault uapi data Lu Baolu
2023-12-01 15:14     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  6:35       ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-26  2:49   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] iommufd: Initializing and releasing IO page fault data Lu Baolu
2023-12-12 13:10     ` Joel Granados
2023-12-12 14:12       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-13  2:04         ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-13  2:15           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-12-13 13:19             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-26  2:49   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] iommufd: Deliver fault messages to user space Lu Baolu
2023-12-01 15:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 11:43       ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-07 16:34     ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 17:17       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  5:47         ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-08 13:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-12 17:46     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-01-15 16:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-01-15 17:44         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-01-15 17:58           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-26  2:49   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_TRIGGER_IOPF test support Lu Baolu
2023-10-26  2:49   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMU_TEST_OP_TRIGGER_IOPF Lu Baolu
2023-11-02 12:47   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] IOMMUFD: Deliver IO page faults to user space Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-02 12:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-07  8:35     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-07  8:35       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-07 17:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-11-07 17:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-08  8:53         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-11-08 17:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <c774e157-9b47-4fb8-80dd-37441c69b43d@linux.intel.com>
2023-11-15 13:58       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-16  1:42         ` Liu, Jing2
2023-11-21  0:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-29  9:08   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-11-30  3:44     ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-01 14:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  5:57     ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-08 13:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-04 15:07   ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04 15:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08  5:10     ` Baolu Lu
2024-01-12 21:56   ` Joel Granados
2024-01-14 13:13     ` Baolu Lu
2024-01-14 17:18       ` Joel Granados
2024-01-15  1:25         ` Baolu Lu

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