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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"eperezma@redhat.com" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 6/6] virtio-pci: implement dirty page tracking
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 12:19:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231108121916-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <033cad04-6840-420e-a320-051894eb484c@intel.com>

On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 05:30:02PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/7/2023 7:33 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 05:52:41PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
> > > > > > > > 2. the PCI FLR is clearing all the registers you exposed here.
> > > > > > > see above
> > > > > > > > 3. Endless expansion of config registers of dirty tracking is not
> > > > > > > > scalable, as they
> > > > > > > are not init time registers not following the Appendix B guidelines.
> > > > > > > endless expansion?? It is a complete set of dirty page tracking, right????
> > > > > > > have you see this cap only controls? The device DMA writes the
> > > > > > > bitmap, not by registers.
> > > > > > Device dirty page tracking is start/stop command to be done by the
> > > > > hypervisor.
> > > > > > So when guest is resetting the device, it stopped the DMA initiated by the
> > > > > hypervisor.
> > > > > > This fundamentally breaks things.
> > > > > Why? When device resets, do you want to keep tracking dirty pages????
> > > > Yes, when the device resets, before that event occurred, all the pages which were dirtied, must be migrated.
> > > > And after reset also new page tracking to continue.
> > > That depends on whether there is an interrupt for the dirty pages.
> > > If there is an interrupt, then the guest owns the pages
> > Not in the virtio model, guest owns the memory once buffer has been used.
> Yes and even better, interrupt happens after buffers marked as used.

But guest owns memory earlier and you can not change it after this
point.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-08 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-03 10:34 [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 0/6] introduce basic facilities for virito live migration Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 1/6] virtio: introduce virtqueue state Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:39     ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 14:49     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  9:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06  9:42         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  9:45           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  8:11             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07  8:22               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  4:08                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 2/6] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:55     ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:54       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  3:29         ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  4:07           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  9:21             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07  8:21                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07  8:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  9:24                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08  7:42                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06  9:43   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  9:09     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09  9:55         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 3/6] virtio: dont reset vqs when SUSPEND Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-06  9:49   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  9:27     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09  9:58         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:15           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-10  6:22             ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10  6:31               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-13  9:23                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:35                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:09                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 10:19                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 12:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:13                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 11:04                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  1:41                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22  7:30                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13  3:34             ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:39               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  4:19                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-16  5:27                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:12                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21  7:33                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:32                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  5:28                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  6:11                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:35                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24  9:04                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:50                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 12:17                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 13:01                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 14:45                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-27  6:38                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-27  8:27                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-27  9:54                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21 21:18                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  1:51                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22  6:47                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 10:04                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 10:14                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  6:49                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 10:03                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 13:37                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  5:28                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  6:32                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:25                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24  6:20                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24  6:28                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24  6:43                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-24  8:50                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:51                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 4/6] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:57     ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:50       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  3:31         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  4:12           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  9:27             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07  9:31                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:44                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:00                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:02                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10  6:52                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 12:31                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13  3:46                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-13  9:23                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:36                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09  6:28                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09  8:41                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09  9:10                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09  9:53                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:11                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 10:09                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:25                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-10  7:52                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 12:31                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13  9:25                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:35                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:14                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 10:21                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 10:02                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 10:06                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-21  4:30                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:26                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:15                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  7:15                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  7:33                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 14:43                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:45                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  1:32                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22  6:53                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 17:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13  9:29     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-13 10:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 5/6] virtio: introduce dirty page tracking facility Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:11     ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 6/6] virtio-pci: implement dirty page tracking Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:46   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 14:21     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  9:16       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  9:43           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 10:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 10:50   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 11:35     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 15:02       ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:47         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-05 16:12           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06  3:58             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  9:48                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  4:03             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:13               ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  9:29                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:18                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:29                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:41                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10  7:24                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  3:52           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06  4:34             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  9:34               ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:05                   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:07                     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:21                       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  9:52                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:33                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  9:30                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:19                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-11-09 10:34                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 11:13                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 10:01                   ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 10:25                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 11:12                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:24                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-08  7:11                           ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-08  7:16                             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:31                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  9:36                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 12:00                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 10:29               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:21                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:27                   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:31                     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 10:02                   ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-05 16:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06  3:51         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:32     ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-05 16:16       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06  4:06         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 10:44             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:29               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07  8:01 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 0/6] introduce basic facilities for virito live migration Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 10:19   ` Zhu, Lingshan

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