From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
"Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
"eperezma@redhat.com" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 4/6] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 02:15:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231122015435-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEtBbDS91gKf1pGiWNBLXatS0PjPJDEU4JtC6=uAjrOBzA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:15:44PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:26 AM Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 10:01 AM
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 6:06 PM Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
>
> [...]
>
> > > > Sorry, no virtio specification does not support device migration today.
> > > > Nothing is broken by adding new features.
> > > >
> > > > Above [1] has the right proposal that Jason's paper pointed out. Please use
> > > it.
> > >
> > > I was involved in the design in [1]. And I don't see a connection to the
> > > dicussion here
> > >
> > > 1) It is based on vDPA in L0
> > > 2) It doesn't address the nesting issue, it requires a proper design in the virtio
> > > spec to support migration in the nesting layer.
> >
> > Nothing prevents [1] to be done without vdpa.
>
> Well, Qemu has SR-IOV emulation for IGB. What's the point of the above
> reply? If a hypervisor wishes, it can be done with any device on L0.
>
> We discuss the possibility of migrating nested VMs, not the
> possibility of emulating SR-IOV, no?
>
> Thanks
It depends really. If the way to support nesting is to emulate sr-iov
then the question becomes how hard it is to emulate sriov to the point
where nesting works.
The fact that current hypervisors pretend that a VF is a PF when
passing things on to guest and things still seem to work is
nice but it's not a hugely important design point IMHO.
--
MST
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2023-11-03 10:34 [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 0/6] introduce basic facilities for virito live migration Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 1/6] virtio: introduce virtqueue state Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 14:49 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 9:42 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 8:11 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 8:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 4:08 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 2/6] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:55 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:54 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 3:29 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:07 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 9:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 8:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:24 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 7:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 9:43 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 9:55 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 3/6] virtio: dont reset vqs when SUSPEND Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:27 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 9:58 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:15 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-10 6:22 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 6:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 9:23 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:35 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 10:19 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 12:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:13 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 11:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 1:41 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 7:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13 3:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 4:19 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-16 5:27 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:12 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21 7:33 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:32 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 5:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22 6:11 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24 3:35 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 9:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:50 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 13:01 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-27 6:38 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-27 8:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-27 9:54 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21 21:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 1:51 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 6:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 10:04 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 10:14 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 6:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 10:03 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 5:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22 6:32 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24 3:25 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 6:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 6:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 6:43 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-24 8:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:51 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 4/6] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:57 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:50 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 3:31 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:12 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 9:27 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 9:31 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:00 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10 6:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 12:31 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 3:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-13 9:23 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:36 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 6:28 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 8:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 9:10 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:11 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 10:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:25 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-10 7:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 12:31 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 9:25 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:35 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:14 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 10:21 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 10:02 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 10:06 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-21 4:30 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:26 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 4:15 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22 7:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-11-22 7:33 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 14:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 1:32 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 6:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13 9:29 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-13 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 5/6] virtio: introduce dirty page tracking facility Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 6/6] virtio-pci: implement dirty page tracking Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:46 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 14:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:16 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:43 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 10:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 10:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 15:02 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:47 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-05 16:12 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 3:58 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:48 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:03 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:13 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 9:29 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:29 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10 7:24 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 3:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 9:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:05 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:07 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 9:30 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:34 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 11:13 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 10:01 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 10:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 11:12 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:24 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-08 7:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-08 7:16 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 9:36 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 12:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 10:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:27 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 10:02 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-05 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 3:51 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:32 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-05 16:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 4:06 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 10:44 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 8:01 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 0/6] introduce basic facilities for virito live migration Michael S. Tsirkin
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