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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
To: Nitin Rawat <quic_nitirawa@quicinc.com>
Cc: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Naresh Maramaina <quic_mnaresh@quicinc.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Peter Wang <peter.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	chu.stanley@gmail.com, Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, quic_cang@quicinc.com,
	quic_nguyenb@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/3] ufs: core: Add CPU latency QoS support for ufs driver
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:51:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207112101.GK2932@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <286b6f8a-c634-19ed-cf53-276cfe05d03f@quicinc.com>

On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:56:43PM +0530, Nitin Rawat wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/7/2023 3:13 PM, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 03:02:04PM -1000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > On 12/6/23 05:32, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:32:54PM +0530, Naresh Maramaina wrote:
> > > > > On 12/5/2023 10:41 PM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > > > On 12/4/23 21:58, Naresh Maramaina wrote:
> > > > > > > On 12/5/2023 12:30 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 12/4/23 06:30, Maramaina Naresh wrote:
> > > > > > > > > +    /* This capability allows the host controller driver to
> > > > > > > > > use the PM QoS
> > > > > > > > > +     * feature.
> > > > > > > > > +     */
> > > > > > > > > +    UFSHCD_CAP_PM_QOS                = 1 << 13,
> > > > > > > > >     };
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Why does it depend on the host driver whether or not PM QoS is
> > > > > > > > enabled? Why isn't it enabled unconditionally?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For some platform vendors power KPI might be more important than
> > > > > > > random io KPI. Hence this flag is disabled by default and can be
> > > > > > > enabled based on platform requirement.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How about leaving this flag out unless if a host vendor asks explicitly
> > > > > > for this flag?
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMHO, instead of completely removing this flag, how about having
> > > > > flag like "UFSHCD_CAP_DISABLE_PM_QOS" which will make PMQOS enable
> > > > > by default and if some host vendor wants to disable it explicitly,
> > > > > they can enable that flag.
> > > > > Please let me know your opinion.
> > > 
> > > That would result in a flag that is tested but that is never set by
> > > upstream code. I'm not sure that's acceptable.
> > > 
> > 
> > Agree. The flag shouldn't be introduced if there are no users.
> > 
> > > > If a vendor wants to disable this feature, then the driver has to be modified.
> > > > That won't be very convenient. So either this has to be configured through sysfs
> > > > or Kconfig if flexibility matters.
> > > 
> > > Kconfig sounds worse to me because changing any Kconfig flag requires a
> > > modification of the Android GKI kernel.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmm, ok. Then I think we can have a sysfs hook to toggle the enable switch.
> 
> Hi Bart, Mani
> 
> How about keeping this feature enabled by default and having a module
> parameter to disable pmqos feature if required ?
> 

Module params not encouraged these days unless there are no other feasible
options available.

- Mani

> Regards,
> Nitin
> 
> > 
> > - Mani
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Bart.
> > 
> 

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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
To: Nitin Rawat <quic_nitirawa@quicinc.com>
Cc: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Naresh Maramaina <quic_mnaresh@quicinc.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Peter Wang <peter.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	chu.stanley@gmail.com, Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, quic_cang@quicinc.com,
	quic_nguyenb@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/3] ufs: core: Add CPU latency QoS support for ufs driver
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:51:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207112101.GK2932@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <286b6f8a-c634-19ed-cf53-276cfe05d03f@quicinc.com>

On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:56:43PM +0530, Nitin Rawat wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/7/2023 3:13 PM, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 03:02:04PM -1000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > On 12/6/23 05:32, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:32:54PM +0530, Naresh Maramaina wrote:
> > > > > On 12/5/2023 10:41 PM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > > > On 12/4/23 21:58, Naresh Maramaina wrote:
> > > > > > > On 12/5/2023 12:30 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 12/4/23 06:30, Maramaina Naresh wrote:
> > > > > > > > > +    /* This capability allows the host controller driver to
> > > > > > > > > use the PM QoS
> > > > > > > > > +     * feature.
> > > > > > > > > +     */
> > > > > > > > > +    UFSHCD_CAP_PM_QOS                = 1 << 13,
> > > > > > > > >     };
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Why does it depend on the host driver whether or not PM QoS is
> > > > > > > > enabled? Why isn't it enabled unconditionally?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For some platform vendors power KPI might be more important than
> > > > > > > random io KPI. Hence this flag is disabled by default and can be
> > > > > > > enabled based on platform requirement.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How about leaving this flag out unless if a host vendor asks explicitly
> > > > > > for this flag?
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMHO, instead of completely removing this flag, how about having
> > > > > flag like "UFSHCD_CAP_DISABLE_PM_QOS" which will make PMQOS enable
> > > > > by default and if some host vendor wants to disable it explicitly,
> > > > > they can enable that flag.
> > > > > Please let me know your opinion.
> > > 
> > > That would result in a flag that is tested but that is never set by
> > > upstream code. I'm not sure that's acceptable.
> > > 
> > 
> > Agree. The flag shouldn't be introduced if there are no users.
> > 
> > > > If a vendor wants to disable this feature, then the driver has to be modified.
> > > > That won't be very convenient. So either this has to be configured through sysfs
> > > > or Kconfig if flexibility matters.
> > > 
> > > Kconfig sounds worse to me because changing any Kconfig flag requires a
> > > modification of the Android GKI kernel.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmm, ok. Then I think we can have a sysfs hook to toggle the enable switch.
> 
> Hi Bart, Mani
> 
> How about keeping this feature enabled by default and having a module
> parameter to disable pmqos feature if required ?
> 

Module params not encouraged these days unless there are no other feasible
options available.

- Mani

> Regards,
> Nitin
> 
> > 
> > - Mani
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Bart.
> > 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-04 14:30 [PATCH V2 0/3] Add CPU latency QoS support for ufs driver Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 14:30 ` Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 14:30 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] ufs: core: " Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 14:30   ` Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 19:00   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-04 19:00     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-05  5:58     ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-05  5:58       ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-05 17:11       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-05 17:11         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-06 14:02         ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-06 14:02           ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-06 15:32           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-06 15:32             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-07  1:02             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-07  1:02               ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-07  9:43               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-07  9:43                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-07 10:26                 ` Nitin Rawat
2023-12-07 10:26                   ` Nitin Rawat
2023-12-07 11:21                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2023-12-07 11:21                     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-11 10:00                     ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-12-11 10:00                       ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-12-06 15:26   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-06 15:26     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-07 11:26     ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-07 11:26       ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-11  9:56     ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-11  9:56       ` Naresh Maramaina
2023-12-04 14:31 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] ufs: ufs-mediatek: Enable CPU latency PM QoS support for MEDIATEK SoC Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 14:31   ` Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 14:31 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] ufs: ufs-qcom: Enable CPU latency QoS support for QCOM SoC Maramaina Naresh
2023-12-04 14:31   ` Maramaina Naresh

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