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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: Liang Chen <liangchen.linux@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	hawk@kernel.org, ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org,
	linyunsheng@huawei.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 4/4] skbuff: Optimization of SKB coalescing for page pool
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:32:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231211113203.2ae8bccf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izPpWZvOSswHP0n-_nBiUMw8Ay2iM4yFE-HZenHv51iBHA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 20:21:21 -0800 Mina Almasry wrote:
> Is it possible/desirable to add a comment to skb_frag_ref() that it
> should not be used with skb->pp_recycle? At least I was tripped by
> this, but maybe it's considered obvious somehow.
> 
> But I feel like this maybe needs to be fixed. Why does the page_pool
> need a separate page->pp_ref_count? Why not use page->_refcount like
> the rest of the code? Is there a history here behind this decision
> that you can point me to? It seems to me that
> incrementing/decrementing page->pp_ref_count may be equivalent to
> doing the same on page->_refcount.

Does reading the contents of the comment I proposed here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231208173816.2f32ad0f@kernel.org/
elucidate it? The pp_ref_count means the holder is aware that 
they can't release the reference by calling put_page().
Because (a) we may need to clean up the pp state, unmap DMA etc.
and (b) one day it may not even be a real page (your work).

TBH I'm partial to the rename from patch 1, so I wouldn't delay this
work any more :) But you have a point that we should inspect the code
and consider making the semantics of skb_frag_ref() stronger all by
itself, without the need to add a new flavor of the helper..
Are you okay with leaving that as a follow up or do you reckon it's
easy enough we should push for it now?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-11 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 10:54 [PATCH net-next v7 0/4] skbuff: Optimize SKB coalescing for page pool Liang Chen
2023-12-06 10:54 ` [PATCH net-next v7 1/4] page_pool: transition to reference count management after page draining Liang Chen
2023-12-09  1:38   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-11  3:31     ` Liang Chen
2023-12-06 10:54 ` [PATCH net-next v7 2/4] page_pool: halve BIAS_MAX for multiple user references of a fragment Liang Chen
2023-12-06 10:54 ` [PATCH net-next v7 3/4] skbuff: Add a function to check if a page belongs to page_pool Liang Chen
2023-12-06 10:54 ` [PATCH net-next v7 4/4] skbuff: Optimization of SKB coalescing for page pool Liang Chen
2023-12-09  2:18   ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11  3:38     ` Liang Chen
2023-12-11  4:21       ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11 19:32         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-12-11 20:07           ` Mina Almasry

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