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From: Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>
To: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, jlayton@kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, alexander.duyck@gmail.com,
	Wei Wang <weiwan@google.com>,
	Amritha Nambiar <amritha.nambiar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 0/3] Per epoll context busy poll support
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 12:55:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240202205545.GA9484@fastly.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d030b68-0371-4460-8d76-cad129888496@intel.com>

On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 02:50:58PM -0600, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/2/2024 2:23 PM, Joe Damato wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 11:58:28AM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >>On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:33:33 -0800 Joe Damato wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 10:22:39AM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >>>>On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:23:28 -0600 Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> >>>>>I think you should be able to get this functionality via the netdev-genl
> >>>>>API to get napi parameters. It returns ifindex as one of the parameters
> >>>>>and you should able to get the name from ifindex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>$ ./cli.py --spec netdev.yaml --do napi-get --json='{"id": 593}'
> >>>>>{'id': 593, 'ifindex': 12, 'irq': 291, 'pid': 3727}
> >>>>
> >>>>FWIW we also have a C library to access those. Out of curiosity what's
> >>>>the programming language you'd use in user space, Joe?
> >>>
> >>>I am using C from user space.
> >>
> >>Ah, great! Here comes the advert.. :)
> >>
> >>   make -C tools/net/ynl/
> >>
> >>will generate the C lib for you. tools/net/ynl/generated/netdev-user.h
> >>will have the full API. There are some samples in
> >>tools/net/ynl/samples/. And basic info also here:
> >>https://docs.kernel.org/next/userspace-api/netlink/intro-specs.html#ynl-lib
> >>
> >>You should be able to convert Sridhar's cli.py into an equivalent
> >>in C in ~10 LoC.
> >>
> >>>Curious what you think about
> >>>SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID, Jakub? I think it would be very useful, but not
> >>>sure if such an extension would be accepted. I can send an RFC, if you'd
> >>>like to take a look and consider it. I know you are busy and I don't want
> >>>to add too much noise to the list if I can help it :)
> >>
> >>Nothing wrong with it in particular, but we went with the netlink API
> >>because all the objects are related. There are interrupts, NAPI
> >>instances, queues, page pools etc. and we need to show all sort of
> >>attributes, capabilities, stats as well as the linking. So getsockopts
> >>may not scale, or we'd need to create a monster mux getsockopt?
> >>Plus with some luck the netlink API will send you notifications of
> >>things changing.
> >
> >Yes this all makes sense. The notification on changes would be excellent,
> >especially if NAPI IDs get changed for some reason  (e.g. the queue count
> >is adjusted or the queues are rebuilt by the driver for some reason like a
> >timeout, etc).
> >
> >I think the issue I'm solving with SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID is related, but
> >different.
> >
> >In my case, SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID identifies which NIC a specific fd from
> >accept arrived from.
> >
> >AFAICT, the netlink API wouldn't be able to help me answer that question. I
> >could use SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID to tell me which NIC the fd is from and
> >then use netlink to figure out which CPU to bind to (for example), but I
> >think SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID is still needed.
> 
> The napi-get netlink api takes napi_id and returns ifindex, irq and pid
> associated with the napi id. You can then pass ifindex to the SIOCGIFNAME
> ioctl to get the interface name. So it is definitely possible without the
> need for the new SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID

Ah, I see. OK. In that case, I won't bother with the RFC for
SIOCGIFNAME_BY_NAPI_ID.

I'll give your suggestion a try next week after I make the driver changes
needed to support it.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-02 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-24  2:53 [net-next 0/3] Per epoll context busy poll support Joe Damato
2024-01-24  2:53 ` [net-next 1/3] eventpoll: support busy poll per epoll instance Joe Damato
2024-01-24  2:53 ` [net-next 2/3] eventpoll: Add per-epoll busy poll packet budget Joe Damato
2024-01-24  2:53 ` [net-next 3/3] eventpoll: Add epoll ioctl for epoll_params Joe Damato
2024-01-24 15:37   ` Joe Damato
2024-01-24  8:20 ` [net-next 0/3] Per epoll context busy poll support Eric Dumazet
2024-01-24 14:20   ` Joe Damato
2024-01-24 14:38     ` Eric Dumazet
2024-01-24 15:19       ` Joe Damato
2024-01-30 18:54   ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-02  3:28     ` Joe Damato
2024-02-02 17:23       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-02 18:22         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02 19:33           ` Joe Damato
2024-02-02 19:58             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02 20:23               ` Joe Damato
2024-02-02 20:50                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-02 20:55                   ` Joe Damato [this message]
2024-02-03  1:15                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-05 18:17                   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2024-02-05 18:52                     ` Joe Damato
2024-02-05 19:48                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-05 18:51                   ` Joe Damato
2024-02-05 19:59                     ` Jakub Kicinski

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