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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Jiangfeng Xiao <xiaojiangfeng@huawei.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	gustavoars@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	jpoimboe@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, nixiaoming@huawei.com,
	kepler.chenxin@huawei.com, wangbing6@huawei.com,
	wangfangpeng1@huawei.com, douzhaolei@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usercopy: delete __noreturn from usercopy_abort
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:32:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202403050129.5B72ACAA0D@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <77bb0d81-f496-7726-9495-57088a4c0bfc@huawei.com>

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:31:06AM +0800, Jiangfeng Xiao wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2024/3/5 1:40, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 04:15:07PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 3:02 AM Jiangfeng Xiao <xiaojiangfeng@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>> When the last instruction of a noreturn function is a call
> >>> to another function, the return address falls outside
> >>> of the function boundary. This seems to cause kernel
> >>> to interrupt the backtrace.
> > 
> > FWIW, all email from huawei.com continues to get eaten by anti-spam
> > checking. I've reported this a few times -- it'd be really nice if the
> > domain configuration could get fixed.
> > 
> >> [...]
> >>> Delete __noreturn from usercopy_abort,
> >>
> >> This sounds like the actual bug is in the backtracing logic? I don't
> >> think removing __noreturn annotations from an individual function is a
> >> good fix, since the same thing can happen with other __noreturn
> >> functions depending on what choices the compiler makes.
> > 
> > Yeah, NAK. usercopy_abort() doesn't return. It ends with BUG().
> > 
> When the user directly or indirectly calls usercopy_abort,
> the final call stack is incorrect, and the
> code where the problem occurs cannot be located.
> In this case, the user will be frustrated.

Can you please give an example of this?

> For the usercopy_abort function, whether '__noreturn' is added
> does not affect the internal behavior of the usercopy_abort function.
> Therefore, it is recommended that '__noreturn' be deleted
> so that backtrace can work properly.

This isn't acceptable. Removing __noreturn this will break
objtool's processing of execution flow for livepatching, IBT, and
KCFI instrumentation. These all depend on an accurate control flow
descriptions, and usercopy_abort is correctly marked __noreturn.

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04  1:39 [PATCH] usercopy: delete __noreturn from usercopy_abort Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-04 15:15 ` Jann Horn
2024-03-04 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05  3:31     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  9:32       ` Kees Cook [this message]
2024-03-05 11:38         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05 17:58           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-05 17:58             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-06  4:00             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-06  4:00               ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-06  9:52             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-06  9:52               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-06 16:02               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-06 16:02                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-09 14:58               ` David Laight
2024-03-09 14:58                 ` David Laight
2024-03-18  4:01             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-18  4:01               ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  2:54   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  3:12     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:19 ` [PATCH] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:19   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:46   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-20  2:46     ` Kees Cook
2024-03-20  3:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:30       ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-20  3:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-20  3:46         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:46           ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:44   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  8:45   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20  8:45     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20 15:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 15:30       ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:40       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20 19:40         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21  9:44         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-21  9:44           ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-21 10:22           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 10:22             ` David Laight
2024-03-21 11:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 11:23               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:07               ` David Laight
2024-03-21 12:07                 ` David Laight
2024-03-21 12:22                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:22                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:57                   ` David Laight
2024-03-21 12:57                     ` David Laight
2024-03-21 13:08                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 13:08                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 14:37                       ` David Laight
2024-03-21 14:37                         ` David Laight
2024-03-21 14:56                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 14:56                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 15:20                           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 15:20                             ` David Laight
2024-03-21 15:33                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 15:33                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 22:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-03-21 22:43                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-03-22  0:08                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22  0:08                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22  9:24                   ` David Laight
2024-03-22  9:24                     ` David Laight
2024-03-22  9:52                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22  9:52                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22 12:54                       ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-22 12:54                         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-22 14:16                       ` David Laight
2024-03-22 14:16                         ` David Laight
2024-03-20 15:41 ` [PATCH v3] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 15:41   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:42   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20 19:42     ` Russell King (Oracle)

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