From: Rand Deeb <rand.sec96@gmail.com>
To: m@bues.ch
Cc: deeb.rand@confident.ru, jonas.gorski@gmail.com,
khoroshilov@ispras.ru, kvalo@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
lvc-project@linuxtesting.org, rand.sec96@gmail.com,
voskresenski.stanislav@confident.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] ssb: Fix potential NULL pointer dereference in ssb_device_uevent
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 00:19:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240307211928.170877-1-rand.sec96@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240307192405.34aa9841@barney>
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:24 PM Michael Büsch <m@bues.ch> wrote:
> There is only one reason to eliminate NULL checks:
> In extremely performance critical code, if it improves performance
> significantly and it is clearly documented that the pointer can never be NULL.
>
> This is not that case here. This is not critical code.
Hi Michael, thank you for your collaboration and feedback.
Yes, I agree, this is not critical code, but what's the point of leaving
redundant conditions even if they won't make a significant performance
difference, regardless of the policy (In other words, as a friendly
discussion) ?
Please take a look at https://git.kernel.org/netdev/net-next/c/92fc97ae9cfd
same situation but it has been applied ! why ?
> Having NULL checks is defensive programming.
> Removing NULL checks is a hazard.
> Not having these checks is a big part of why security sucks in today's software.
I understand and respect your point of view as software engineer but it's a
matter of design problems which is not our case here.
Defensive programming is typically applied when there's a potential risk,
but in our scenario, it's impossible for 'dev' to be NULL. If we adopt this
approach as a form of defensive programming, we'd find ourselves adding
similar conditions to numerous functions and parameters. Moreover, this
would unnecessarily complicate the codebase, especially during reviews. For
instance, encountering such a condition might lead one to assume that 'dev'
could indeed be NULL before reaching this function. That's my viewpoint.
> V3 shall be applied, because it fixes a clear bug. Whether this bug can actually
> be triggered or not in today's kernel doesn't matter.
so would you recommend fix the commit message as Jeff Johnson recommended ?
or just keep it as it is ?
--
Best Regards
Rand Deeb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-07 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-06 12:30 [PATCH v3] ssb: Fix potential NULL pointer dereference in ssb_device_uevent Rand Deeb
2024-03-06 15:54 ` Jeff Johnson
2024-03-06 19:51 ` Jonas Gorski
2024-03-07 13:41 ` Rand Deeb
2024-03-07 18:24 ` Michael Büsch
2024-03-07 21:19 ` Rand Deeb [this message]
2024-03-07 21:38 ` Michael Büsch
2024-03-07 22:02 ` James Dutton
2024-03-08 4:50 ` Michael Büsch
2024-03-07 23:29 ` Rand Deeb
2024-03-08 1:04 ` James Dutton
2024-03-08 12:11 ` Rand Deeb
2024-03-08 5:09 ` Michael Büsch
2024-03-08 11:36 ` Rand Deeb
2024-03-08 15:44 ` Michael Büsch
2024-03-12 15:31 ` [v3] ssb: Fix potential NULL pointer dereference in ssb_device_uevent() Kalle Valo
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