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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+9a5b0ced8b1bfb238b56@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	tj@kernel.org, valesini@yandex-team.ru,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [syzbot] [kernfs?] possible deadlock in kernfs_fop_llseek
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 09:11:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240404081122.GQ538574@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxiS5X19OT2MTo_LnLAx2VL9oA1zBSpbuiWMNy_AyGLDrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 09:54:35AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> 
> In the lockdep dependency chain, overlayfs inode lock is taken
> before kernfs internal of->mutex, where kernfs (sysfs) is the lower
> layer of overlayfs, which is sane.
> 
> With /sys/power/resume (and probably other files), sysfs also
> behaves as a stacking filesystem, calling vfs helpers, such as
> lookup_bdev() -> kern_path(), which is a behavior of a stacked
> filesystem, without all the precautions that comes with behaving
> as a stacked filesystem.

No.  This is far worse than anything stacked filesystems do - it's
an arbitrary pathname resolution while holding a lock.
It's not local.  Just about anything (including automounts, etc.)
can be happening there and it pushes the lock in question outside
of *ALL* pathwalk-related locks.  Pathname doesn't have to
resolve to anything on overlayfs - it can just go through
a symlink on it, or walk into it and traverse a bunch of ..
afterwards, etc.

Don't confuse that with stacking - it's not even close.
You can't use that anywhere near overlayfs layers.

Maybe isolate it into a separate filesystem, to be automounted
on /sys/power.  And make anyone playing with overlayfs with
sysfs as a layer mount the damn thing on top of power/ in your
overlayfs.  But using that thing as a part of layer is
a non-starter.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-04  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 18:23 [syzbot] [kernfs?] possible deadlock in kernfs_fop_llseek syzbot
2024-04-03 23:51 ` syzbot
2024-04-04  6:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-04  8:11     ` Al Viro [this message]
2024-04-04  8:21       ` Al Viro
2024-04-04  8:40         ` Al Viro
2024-04-04  9:33         ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-04 22:01           ` Al Viro
2024-04-05 10:34             ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-05  6:51           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-05 11:19             ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-05 13:48               ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-05 14:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-05 15:41             ` Tejun Heo
2024-04-06  3:54             ` Al Viro
2024-04-05 10:47           ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-05 14:48             ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-06  4:09           ` Al Viro
2024-04-06  5:25             ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-05 15:08     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-05 15:37       ` syzbot
2024-04-05 16:23         ` Al Viro
2024-04-06  5:34           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-06  7:05             ` syzbot
2024-04-06  7:11               ` Al Viro
2024-04-06  8:23                 ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-07  0:48                   ` Al Viro
2024-04-06  8:57                 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-07  0:50                   ` Al Viro
2024-04-07 11:02                     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-04-09  9:18                     ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-04  0:42 ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-04  1:08   ` syzbot
2024-04-04  2:12 ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-04  2:39   ` syzbot
2024-04-05 23:00 ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-05 23:02   ` syzbot
2024-04-06  0:10     ` Al Viro
2024-04-05 23:02 ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-06  0:34   ` syzbot

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