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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC] Mitigating unexpected arithmetic overflow
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 10:08:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240509140854.GF3620298@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202405081949.0565810E46@keescook>

On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 11:11:35PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > I think it would be interesting in general to have some kind of
> > warning for "implicit cast drops bits".
> > 
> > I fear that we'd have an enormous about of them, and maybe they'd be
> > unsolvable without making the code *much* uglier (and sometimes the
> > fix might be to add an explicit cast to document intentionally dropped
> > bits, but explicit casts have their own issues).

Seapking of which, I recently had to work around an overactive
compiler UBSAN which complained about this:

struct ext2_super {
       ...
       __u32	time_lo;
       __u32	time_high;
       ...
}

	time_t	now;
	
	sb->time_low = now;
	sb->time_high = now >> 32;

This is obviously (to a human) correct, but because of stupid compiler
tricks, in order to silence compiler-level and ubsan complaints, this
got turned into:


	sb->time_low = now & 0xffffffff;
#if (SIZEOF_TIME_T > 4)
	sb->time_high = (now >> 32) & EXT4_EPOCH_MASK;
#else
	sb->time_high = 0;
#endif

and in the opposite case, I was forced to write:

#if (SIZEOF_TIME_T == 4)
	return *lo;
#else
	return ((time_t)(*hi) << 32) | *lo;
#endif

... and this made me very sad.  Grumble....

				- Ted


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-09 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07 23:27 [RFC] Mitigating unexpected arithmetic overflow Kees Cook
2024-05-08 12:22 ` David Laight
2024-05-08 23:43   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 19:44   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-08 20:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 22:54       ` Kees Cook
2024-05-08 23:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09  0:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09  0:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09  6:11           ` Kees Cook
2024-05-09 14:08             ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2024-05-09 15:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 17:54                 ` Al Viro
2024-05-09 18:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 18:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 18:48                       ` Al Viro
2024-05-09 19:15                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 19:28                           ` Al Viro
2024-05-09 21:06                 ` David Laight
2024-05-18  5:11             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-09 21:23           ` David Laight
2024-05-12  8:03           ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-12 16:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-12 19:29               ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-13 18:34               ` Kees Cook
2024-05-15  7:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-15 17:12             ` Justin Stitt
2024-05-16  7:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 13:30             ` Kees Cook
2024-05-16 14:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 19:48                 ` Justin Stitt
2024-05-16 20:07                   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-16 20:51                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-05-17 21:15                     ` Kees Cook
2024-05-18  2:51                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-05-17 22:04                   ` Fangrui Song
2024-05-18 13:08               ` David Laight
2024-05-15  7:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-17  7:45       ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-05-11 16:19 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-05-13 19:43   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-14  8:45     ` Dan Carpenter
2024-05-18 15:39       ` David Laight

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