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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, laoar.shao@gmail.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, longman@redhat.com,
	walters@verbum.org, wangkai86@huawei.com, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: move dentry shrinking outside the inode lock in 'rmdir()'
Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 20:28:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240511192824.GC2118490@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wijTRY-72qm02kZAT_Ttua0Qwvfms5m5NbR4EWbS02NqA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 11:42:34AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> so we have another level of locking going on, and my patch only moved
> the dcache pruning outside the lock of the directory we're removing
> (not outside the lock of the directory that contains the removed
> directory).
> 
> And that outside lock is the much more important one, I bet.

... and _that_ is where taking d_delete outside of the lock might
take an unpleasant analysis of a lot of code.

We have places where we assume that holding the parent locked
will prevent ->d_inode changes of children.  It might be possible
to get rid of that, but it will take a non-trivial amount of work.

In any case, I think the original poster said that parent directories
were not removed, so I doubt that rmdir() behaviour is relevant for
their load.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-11 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-11  2:27 [RFC PATCH] fs: dcache: Delete the associated dentry when deleting a file Yafang Shao
2024-05-11  2:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11  3:35   ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-11  4:54     ` Waiman Long
2024-05-11 15:58       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-11 16:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11 16:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11 18:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11 18:26               ` [PATCH] vfs: move dentry shrinking outside the inode lock in 'rmdir()' Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11 18:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11 19:28                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2024-05-11 19:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11 20:31                       ` Al Viro
2024-05-11 21:17                         ` Al Viro
2024-05-12 15:45                     ` James Bottomley
2024-05-12 16:16                       ` Al Viro
2024-05-12 19:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-12 20:29                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-13  5:31                           ` Al Viro
2024-05-13 15:58                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-13 16:33                               ` Al Viro
2024-05-13 16:44                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-23  7:18                                 ` Dave Chinner
2024-05-11 20:02                   ` [PATCH v2] " Linus Torvalds
2024-05-12  3:06                     ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-12  3:30                       ` Al Viro
2024-05-12  3:36                         ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-11 19:24                 ` [PATCH] " Al Viro
2024-05-15  2:18     ` [RFC PATCH] fs: dcache: Delete the associated dentry when deleting a file Yafang Shao
2024-05-15  2:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-15  9:17         ` [PATCH] vfs: " Yafang Shao
2024-05-15 16:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-16 13:44             ` Oliver Sang
2024-05-22  8:51             ` Oliver Sang
2024-05-23  2:21               ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-22  8:11           ` kernel test robot
2024-05-22 16:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-22 17:13               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-22 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-11  3:36   ` [RFC PATCH] fs: dcache: " Al Viro
2024-05-11  3:51     ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-11  5:18     ` Al Viro
2024-05-11  5:32     ` Linus Torvalds

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