From: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] rust: sync: Add atomic support
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 18:19:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240613181910.74db809c@eugeo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZmseosxVQXdsQjNB@boqun-archlinux>
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 09:30:26 -0700
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..b0f852cf1741
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
> > > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > > +
> > > +//! Atomic primitives.
> > > +//!
> > > +//! These primitives have the same semantics as their C counterparts, for precise definitions of
> > > +//! the semantics, please refer to tools/memory-model. Note that Linux Kernel Memory (Consistency)
> > > +//! Model is the only model for Rust development in kernel right now, please avoid to use Rust's
> > > +//! own atomics.
> > > +
> > > +use crate::bindings::{atomic64_t, atomic_t};
> > > +use crate::types::Opaque;
> > > +
> > > +mod r#impl;
> > > +
> > > +/// Atomic 32bit signed integers.
> > > +pub struct AtomicI32(Opaque<atomic_t>);
> > > +
> > > +/// Atomic 64bit signed integers.
> > > +pub struct AtomicI64(Opaque<atomic64_t>);
> >
> >
> > Can we avoid two types and use a generic `Atomic<T>` and then implement
> > on `Atomic<i32>` and `Atomic<i64>` instead? Like the recent
> > generic NonZero in Rust standard library or the atomic crate
> > (https://docs.rs/atomic/).
> >
>
> We can always add a layer on top of what we have here to provide the
> generic `Atomic<T>`. However, I personally don't think generic
> `Atomic<T>` is a good idea, for a few reasons:
>
> * I'm not sure it will bring benefits to users, the current atomic
> users in kernel are pretty specific on the size of atomic they
> use, so they want to directly use AtomicI32 or AtomicI64 in
> their type definitions rather than use a `Atomic<T>` where their
> users can provide type later.
You can write `Atomic<i32>` and `Atomic<i64>`.
>
> * I can also see the future where we have different APIs on
> different types of atomics, for example, we could have a:
>
> impl AtomicI64 {
> pub fn split(&self) -> (&AtomicI32, &AtomicI32)
> }
>
> which doesn't exist for AtomicI32. Note this is not a UB because
> we write our atomic implementation in asm, so it's perfectly
> fine for mix-sized atomics.
You can still have
impl Atomic<i64> {
pub fn split(&self) -> (&Atomic<i32>, &Atomic<i32>)
}
I see `Atomic<i32>/Atomic<i64>` being generally more flexible than
`AtomicI32/AtomicI64`, without very little downsides. We may not have
generic users but I think it doesn't do any harm to have it in a form
that makes future generics easy.
Best,
Gary
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-13 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-12 22:30 [RFC 0/2] Initial LKMM atomics support in Rust Boqun Feng
2024-06-12 22:30 ` [RFC 1/2] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 5:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-13 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-13 10:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-13 10:36 ` Mark Rutland
2024-06-14 10:31 ` Mark Rutland
2024-06-14 20:13 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-12 22:30 ` [RFC 2/2] rust: sync: Add atomic support Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 5:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-13 13:44 ` Gary Guo
2024-06-13 16:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 17:19 ` Gary Guo [this message]
2024-06-13 17:22 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-06-13 19:05 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-14 9:59 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-06-14 14:33 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-14 21:22 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-15 1:33 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-15 7:09 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-15 22:12 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 9:46 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 14:08 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:06 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 15:34 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:55 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 16:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-19 9:09 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-19 15:00 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 17:05 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 9:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-16 14:16 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 14:35 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:14 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-06-16 15:32 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-16 15:54 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 17:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 17:59 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-16 15:50 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:23 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-15 1:03 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-15 1:24 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-15 1:28 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-15 2:39 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-15 2:51 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-16 14:51 ` Gary Guo
2024-06-16 15:06 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-17 5:36 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-17 5:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-19 9:30 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 0:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-14 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-14 14:18 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 20:25 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-14 10:40 ` Mark Rutland
2024-06-14 20:20 ` Boqun Feng
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