From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] rust: sync: Add atomic support
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 12:05:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmtC7h7v1t6XJ6EI@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72myhoCCWs7j0eZuxfoYMbTez7cPa795T57+gz2Dpd+xAw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 07:22:54PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 6:31 PM Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So let's start with some basic and simple until we really have a need
> > for generic `Atomic<T>`. Thoughts?
>
> I don't want to delay this, but using generics would be more flexible,
> right? e.g. it could allow us to have atomics of, say, newtypes, if
> that were to be useful.
>
> Is there a particular disadvantage of using the generics? The two
> cases you mentioned would just be written explicitly, right?
>
> One disadvantage would be that they are different from the Rust
> standard library ones, e.g. in case we wanted third-party code to use
> them, but could be provided if needed later on.
>
Well, the other thing is AtomicI32 -> atomic_t and AtomicI64 ->
atomic64_t are perfect mappings, and we can treat AtomicI32 and
AtomicI64 as a separate layer that wires C atomics into Rust. As I said,
we can build `Atomic<T>` on top of this layer, like:
Atomic<T>
|
V
AtomicI{32,64}
|
V
atomic{,64}_t
and if we drop this layer, the dependencies become:
Atomic<i32,i64> <- Atomic<u32,u64>
|
V
atomic{,64}_t
i.e. in the same layer of Atomic<T>, some of them directly depend on
some other Atomic<T> types, which doesn't look very clean to me. And it
might be difficult for architecture maintainers to track the exact
dependency for Rust code.
This is also the reason why I didn't use Rust macros to generate
AtomicI32 and AtomicI64 implementation: I use a script to generate .rs
file. This ensures AtomicI32 and AtomicI64 stay with the exact same set
of APIs as atomic{,64}_t (described by scripts/atomic/atomics.tbl. Put
it in another way, I guess you can think AtomicI32 and AtomicI64 as some
sort of intrinsic layer provided by C. And should we need it, we can
build an Atomic<T> layer on top of it.
Does this make sense?
Regards,
Boqun
> Cheers,
> Miguel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-13 19:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-12 22:30 [RFC 0/2] Initial LKMM atomics support in Rust Boqun Feng
2024-06-12 22:30 ` [RFC 1/2] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 5:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-13 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-13 10:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-13 10:36 ` Mark Rutland
2024-06-14 10:31 ` Mark Rutland
2024-06-14 20:13 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-12 22:30 ` [RFC 2/2] rust: sync: Add atomic support Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 5:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-06-13 13:44 ` Gary Guo
2024-06-13 16:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 17:19 ` Gary Guo
2024-06-13 17:22 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-06-13 19:05 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2024-06-14 9:59 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-06-14 14:33 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-14 21:22 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-15 1:33 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-15 7:09 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-15 22:12 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 9:46 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 14:08 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:06 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 15:34 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:55 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 16:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-19 9:09 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-19 15:00 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 17:05 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 9:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-16 14:16 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 14:35 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:14 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-06-16 15:32 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-16 15:54 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 17:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 17:59 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-16 15:50 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-16 15:23 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-15 1:03 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-15 1:24 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-15 1:28 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-15 2:39 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-15 2:51 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-16 14:51 ` Gary Guo
2024-06-16 15:06 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-17 5:36 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-17 5:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-19 9:30 ` Benno Lossin
2024-06-16 0:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-14 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-14 14:18 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-13 20:25 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-14 10:40 ` Mark Rutland
2024-06-14 20:20 ` Boqun Feng
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