From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, audit@vger.kernel.org,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] fs: Add inode_get_ino() and implement get_ino() for NFS
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:27:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241014.Duivaxoo0pae@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241014-turmbau-ansah-37d96a5fd780@brauner>
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 04:45:00PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 06:17:43AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 17:30 +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 07:39:33AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:52:42PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes, but how do you call getattr() without a path?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't because inode numbers are irrelevant without the path.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are for kernel messages and audit logs. Please take a look at the
> > > > > use cases with the other patches.
> > > >
> > > > It still is useless. E.g. btrfs has duplicate inode numbers due to
> > > > subvolumes.
> > >
> > > At least it reflects what users see.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you want a better pretty but not useful value just work on making
> > > > i_ino 64-bits wide, which is long overdue.
> > >
> > > That would require too much work for me, and this would be a pain to
> > > backport to all stable kernels.
> > >
> >
> > Would it though? Adding this new inode operation seems sub-optimal.
>
> I agree.
Of course it would be better to fix the root of the issue. Who is up
for the challenge?
>
> > Inode numbers are static information. Once an inode number is set on an
> > inode it basically never changes. This patchset will turn all of those
> > direct inode->i_ino fetches into a pointer chase for the new inode
> > operation, which will then almost always just result in a direct fetch.
>
> Yup.
>
> > A better solution here would be to make inode->i_ino a u64, and just
> > fix up all of the places that touch it to expect that. Then, just
>
> I would like us to try and see to make this happen. I really dislike
> that struct inode is full of non-explicity types.
Also, it would be OK to backport it, right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-14 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-10 15:26 [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] fs: Add inode_get_ino() and implement get_ino() for NFS Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/7] audit: Fix inode numbers Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 1:20 ` [PATCH RFC " Paul Moore
2024-10-11 1:38 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH " Paul Moore
2024-10-14 13:30 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-14 23:36 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/7] selinux: Fix inode numbers in error messages Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 1:20 ` [PATCH RFC " Paul Moore
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/7] integrity: Fix inode numbers in audit records Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 1:20 ` [PATCH RFC " Paul Moore
2024-10-11 10:15 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 11:34 ` Roberto Sassu
2024-10-11 12:38 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:45 ` Roberto Sassu
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/7] ipe: " Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 17:44 ` Fan Wu
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/7] smack: Fix inode numbers in logs Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 17:18 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-10-10 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 7/7] tomoyo: " Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-12 7:35 ` [PATCH] tomoyo: use u64 for handling numeric values Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-14 13:59 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 18:07 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/7] fs: Add inode_get_ino() and implement get_ino() for NFS Anna Schumaker
2024-10-11 10:14 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-10 19:28 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-11 10:15 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-11 12:38 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:43 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 10:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-11 10:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-11 11:10 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 11:04 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 14:27 ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-10-11 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 15:26 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 12:47 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 12:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 13:20 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 13:52 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 14:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 15:30 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-11 15:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 14:35 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-14 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-13 10:17 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-14 8:40 ` Burn Alting
2024-10-14 9:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 12:12 ` Burn Alting
2024-10-14 12:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 13:13 ` Mickaël Salaün
[not found] ` <9c3bc3b7-2e79-4423-b8eb-f9f6249ee5bf@iinet.net.au>
2024-10-14 10:22 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-14 14:45 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-14 15:27 ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2024-10-16 0:15 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-14 8:40 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-14 10:02 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-14 14:47 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-14 17:51 ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-10-16 14:23 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-16 23:05 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-17 14:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-17 14:54 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-17 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 15:15 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-17 15:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 16:43 ` Jan Kara
2024-10-18 5:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-21 13:17 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-17 17:05 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-17 17:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-17 17:59 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-17 21:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-10-18 5:18 ` hch
2024-10-17 20:21 ` Paul Moore
2024-10-18 12:25 ` Jan Kara
2024-10-21 13:13 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-21 14:04 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-17 14:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
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