From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, joshi.k@samsung.com,
javier.gonz@samsung.com, bvanassche@acm.org,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 9/9] scsi: set permanent stream count in block limits
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 16:53:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241029155330.GA27856@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZyEBhOoDHKJs4EEY@kbusch-mbp>
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 09:38:44AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> They're not exposed as write streams. Patch 7/9 sets the feature if it
> is a placement id or not, and only nvme sets it, so scsi's attributes
> are not claiming to be a write stream.
So it shows up in sysfs, but:
- queue_max_write_hints (which really should be queue_max_write_streams)
still picks it up, and from there the statx interface
- per-inode fcntl hint that encode a temperature still magically
get dumpted into the write streams if they are set.
In other words it's a really leaky half-backed abstraction.
Let's brainstorm how it could be done better:
- the max_write_streams values only set by block devices that actually
do support write streams, and not the fire and forget temperature
hints. They way this is queried is by having a non-zero value
there, not need for an extra flag.
- but the struct file (or maybe inode) gets a supported flag, as stream
separation needs to be supported by the file system
- a separate fcntl is used to set per-inode streams (if you care about
that, seem like the bdev use case focusses on per-I/O). In that case
we'd probably also need a separate inode field for them, or a somewhat
complicated scheme to decide what is stored in the inode field if there
is only one.
- for block devices bdev/fops.c maps the temperature hints into write
streams if write streams are supported, any user that mixes and
matches write streams and temperature hints gets what they deserve
- this could also be a helper for file systems that want to do the
same.
Just a quick writeup while I'm on the run, there's probably a hole or
two that could be poked into it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-29 15:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 15:19 [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 1/9] block: use generic u16 for write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-29 17:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 2/9] block: introduce max_write_hints queue limit Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 3/9] statx: add write hint information Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 4/9] block: allow ability to limit partition write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 17:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 4:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 20:11 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 20:26 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 20:37 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 21:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 5/9] block, fs: add write hint to kiocb Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 6/9] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Keith Busch
2024-11-07 2:09 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 7/9] block: export placement hint feature Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 8/9] nvme: enable FDP support Keith Busch
2024-10-30 0:24 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 9/9] scsi: set permanent stream count in block limits Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:34 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:38 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:53 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-29 16:22 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 4:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 15:41 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 15:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 15:48 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 15:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 16:42 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:05 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:23 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 22:32 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-31 8:19 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-31 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-31 14:06 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-01 7:16 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-11-01 8:19 ` Javier González
2024-11-01 14:49 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-06 14:26 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-30 16:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 17:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:44 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-01 1:03 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2024-10-29 17:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 5:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:24 ` [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-05 15:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-06 18:36 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-07 20:36 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-08 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-08 15:51 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-08 16:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-08 17:43 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-08 18:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-11 9:31 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 17:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-12 13:52 ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-11-19 2:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-25 23:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-27 2:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-27 18:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-27 20:14 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-27 21:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-28 2:09 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-28 8:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-29 6:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-29 6:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-28 3:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-28 15:21 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-28 16:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-05 8:03 ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-12-05 20:37 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-10 0:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-10 2:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-10 9:53 ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-12-10 21:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-10 19:41 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11 9:36 ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-12-11 17:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11 19:38 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-10 7:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-10 8:05 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-12-10 10:58 ` hch
2024-12-10 19:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11 4:07 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-12-11 21:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-11 21:21 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2024-12-11 19:41 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-12-09 22:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-12-09 23:13 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-12-09 23:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-10 0:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-11 6:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11 9:30 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 9:37 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-11-11 9:41 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 9:42 ` hch
2024-11-11 9:43 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-11-11 10:37 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 6:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11 6:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
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