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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: "Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Adam Bratschi-Kaye" <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:03:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2024121630-steed-grating-6352@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e1b5c5e-52ae-4332-a49c-990add7611f6@kernel.dk>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 07:43:12AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 12/16/24 6:02 AM, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> >>> I understand that you would like to phase out module parameters, but I
> >>> don't think blocking their use from Rust is the right way to go about
> >>> that task. If you really feel that module parameters have no place in
> >>> new drivers, I would suggest that to be part of review process for each
> >>> individual new driver - not at the stage of enabling module parameters
> >>> for Rust in general.
> >>
> >> I'm saying that module parameters do NOT belong in a driver, which is
> >> what you are wanting to do here.  And as for adding new apis, please
> >> only do so when you have a real user, I don't see a real user for module
> >> parameters in rust just yet.  If that changes, I'll reconsider my stance :)
> > 
> > I guess we disagree about what is "real" and what is not.
> > 
> > In my view, null_blk is real, it is used by real people to do real work.
> > They get real annoyed when the interface for their real tools change -
> > thus making it more difficult to do this experiment.
> 
> I'd have to agree with that - yes, null_blk doesn't host any real
> applications, but it is the backbone of a lot of testing that blktests
> and others do. Hence it's very real in that sense, and the rust version
> of null_blk should provide and mimic how the C version works for ease of
> testing.
> 
> If this was a new driver where no prior art exists in terms of users and
> API, then I'd certainly agree with Greg. But that's not the case here.

Ok, so are you going to drop the C version and go with the rust version
if it shows up?  Surely you don't want duplicate drivers for the same
thing in the tree, right?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-12-13 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rust: str: implement `PartialEq` for `BStr` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:49     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] rust: str: implement `strip_prefix` " Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rust: add parameter support to the `module!` macro Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:46     ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:42       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:54     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-13 13:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 17:14         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 12:45           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 13:17             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-08 13:43             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 14:20               ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:43   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:24     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:48       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 12:57         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-17 14:09           ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-13 14:23       ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 15:38         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 16:05           ` Greg KH
2024-12-16  9:51             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 12:14               ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 12:23                 ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 13:02                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 13:02                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 14:43                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:03                     ` Greg KH [this message]
2024-12-16 15:08                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:39                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-16 15:48                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-18  2:16                             ` Josh Triplett
2024-12-13 12:28   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 19:41     ` Luis Chamberlain

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