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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Cristian Prundeanu <cpru@amazon.com>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Hazem Mohamed Abuelfotoh <abuehaze@amazon.com>,
	Ali Saidi <alisaidi@amazon.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Geoff Blake <blakgeof@amazon.com>,
	Csaba Csoma <csabac@amazon.com>,
	Bjoern Doebel <doebel@amazon.com>,
	Gautham Shenoy <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them to sysctl
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:43:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250212094307.GB19118@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250212054113.19938-1-cpru@amazon.com>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 11:41:13PM -0600, Cristian Prundeanu wrote:

> Your find also helps to point out that even when it works, SCHED_BATCH is 
> a more complex and error prone mitigation than just disabling PL and RTP. 
> The same reproducer setup that uses systemd to set SCHED_BATCH does show 
> improvement in 6.12, but not in 6.13+. There may not even be a single 
> approach that works well on both.
> 
> Conversely, setting NO_PLACE_LAG + NO_RUN_TO_PARITY is simply done at boot 
> time, and does not require further user effort. 

For your workload. It will wreck other workloads.

Yes, SCHED_BATCH might be more fiddly, but it allows for composition.
You can run multiple workloads together and they all behave.

Maybe the right thing here is to get mysql patched; so that it will
request BATCH itself for the threads that need it.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-12 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-19 11:04 [GIT PULL] sched/urgent for v6.13 Borislav Petkov
2025-01-19 17:54 ` pr-tracker-bot
2025-01-28 23:09 ` [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them to sysctl Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-11  3:27   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-12  5:41     ` Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-12  9:43       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-02-12  5:36   ` [PATCH v2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Move PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY " Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-12  9:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-12  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-12 23:00         ` Cristian Prundeanu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-10-19  2:30 [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them " Prundeanu, Cristian
2024-10-24  8:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2024-10-25 14:43   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-10-29  4:57     ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-30 10:21       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-01 13:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 10:19       ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-04 10:34         ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-10-17  5:19 Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-17  9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-17 18:19   ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2024-10-18  7:07     ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-10-18  9:54     ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2024-11-14 20:10 ` Joseph Salisbury
2024-11-19 10:29   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-25 11:35 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-11-26  3:58   ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-26 15:12   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-28 10:32   ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-11-29 10:12     ` Dietmar Eggemann

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