From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: jack@suse.cz, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
mcgrof@kernel.org, hch@infradead.org, david@fromorbit.com,
rafael@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, pavel@kernel.org,
mingo@redhat.com, will@kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] fs: allow all writers to be frozen
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 17:32:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250402-melden-kindisch-8ea1b8c62bb4@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250402-work-freeze-v2-2-6719a97b52ac@kernel.org>
On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 04:07:32PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> During freeze/thaw we need to be able to freeze all writers during
> suspend/hibernate. Otherwise tasks such as systemd-journald that mmap a
> file and write to it will not be frozen after we've already frozen the
> filesystem.
>
> This has some risk of not being able to freeze processes in case a
> process has acquired SB_FREEZE_PAGEFAULT under mmap_sem or
> SB_FREEZE_INTERNAL under some other filesytem specific lock. If the
> filesystem is frozen, a task can block on the frozen filesystem with
> e.g., mmap_sem held. If some other task then blocks on grabbing that
> mmap_sem, hibernation ill fail because it is unable to hibernate a task
> holding mmap_sem. This could be fixed by making a range of filesystem
> related locks use freezable sleeping. That's impractical and not
> warranted just for suspend/hibernate. Assume that this is an infrequent
> problem and we've given userspace a way to skip filesystem freezing
> through a sysfs file.
>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
> ---
> include/linux/fs.h | 3 +--
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/fs.h b/include/linux/fs.h
> index b379a46b5576..1edcba3cd68e 100644
> --- a/include/linux/fs.h
> +++ b/include/linux/fs.h
> @@ -1781,8 +1781,7 @@ static inline void __sb_end_write(struct super_block *sb, int level)
>
> static inline void __sb_start_write(struct super_block *sb, int level)
> {
> - percpu_down_read_freezable(sb->s_writers.rw_sem + level - 1,
> - level == SB_FREEZE_WRITE);
> + percpu_down_read_freezable(sb->s_writers.rw_sem + level - 1, true);
> }
Jan, one more thought about freezability here. We know that there will
can be at least one process during hibernation that ends up generating
page faults and that's systemd-journald. When systemd-sleep requests
writing a hibernation image via /sys/power/ files it will inevitably end
up freezing systemd-journald and it may be generating a page fault with
->mmap_lock held. systemd-journald is now sleeping with
SB_FREEZE_PAGEFAULT and TASK_FREEZABLE. We know this can cause
hibernation to fail. That part is fine. What isn't is that we will very
likely always trigger:
#ifdef CONFIG_LOCKDEP
/*
* It's dangerous to freeze with locks held; there be dragons there.
*/
if (!(state & __TASK_FREEZABLE_UNSAFE))
WARN_ON_ONCE(debug_locks && p->lockdep_depth);
#endif
with lockdep enabled.
So we really actually need percpu_rswem_read_freezable_unsafe(), i.e.,
TASK_FREEZABLE_UNSAFE.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-02 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-27 14:06 [RFC PATCH 0/4] vfs freeze/thaw on suspend/resume James Bottomley
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] locking/percpu-rwsem: add freezable alternative to down_read James Bottomley
2025-03-31 19:51 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 23:32 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 1:13 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-01 11:20 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 12:50 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 12:52 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 11:47 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] vfs: make sb_start_write freezable James Bottomley
2025-03-27 17:36 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] fs/super.c: introduce reverse superblock iterator and use it in emergency remount James Bottomley
2025-03-28 11:56 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 12:38 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extend freeze support to suspend and hibernate Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 1/6] super: remove pointless s_root checks Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 2/6] super: simplify user_get_super() Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 3/6] super: skip dying superblocks early Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 4/6] super: use a common iterator (Part 1) Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] super: use common iterator (Part 2) Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 18:58 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-29 7:34 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] super: add filesystem freezing helpers for suspend and hibernate Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Extend freeze support to " Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] super: remove pointless s_root checks Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 9:57 ` Jan Kara
2025-06-11 16:26 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-12 12:20 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] super: simplify user_get_super() Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 9:58 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] super: skip dying superblocks early Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:00 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] super: use a common iterator (Part 1) Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:01 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] super: use common iterator (Part 2) Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:07 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-31 10:15 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] super: add filesystem freezing helpers for suspend and hibernate Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 8:46 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 11:30 ` kernel test robot
2025-03-31 10:23 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-31 10:25 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-29 14:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Extend freeze support to " James Bottomley
2025-03-29 17:02 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-30 8:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-30 11:53 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-30 14:00 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 9:13 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 10:36 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-31 14:49 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 23:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 12:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] efivarfs: support freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] libfs: export find_next_child() Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] efivarfs: support freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 14:46 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-31 15:03 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 19:31 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 7:44 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-31 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Ard Biesheuvel
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] power: wire-up filesystem freeze/thaw with suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] ext4: replace kthread freezing with auto fs freezing Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 9:16 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 9:35 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 10:08 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 2/6] btrfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 3/6] xfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 1:11 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-01 7:17 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 11:35 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-01 12:45 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs: add owner of freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] fs: allow pagefault based writers to be frozen Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 0:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] power: freeze filesystems during suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 8:16 ` [PATCH 0/6] power: wire-up filesystem freeze/thaw with suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 9:32 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-01 13:03 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 16:57 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] fs: add owner of freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:56 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-03 19:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-04 10:24 ` [PATCH] fs: allow nesting with FREEZE_EXCL Christian Brauner
2025-04-07 9:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-07 11:18 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-09 10:38 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] fs: allow all writers to be frozen Christian Brauner
2025-04-02 15:32 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2025-04-02 16:03 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 16:13 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:59 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] power: freeze filesystems during suspend/resume Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 16:29 ` Jan Kara
2025-04-02 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] kernfs: add warning about implementing freeze/thaw Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 15:00 ` Jan Kara
2025-07-20 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] power: wire-up filesystem freeze/thaw with suspend/resume Askar Safin
2025-07-21 12:09 ` Jan Kara
2025-08-04 5:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-04 6:02 ` Askar Safin
2025-08-04 6:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-04-01 14:14 ` [PATCH 0/6] " Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-01 14:40 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-01 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-01 17:02 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-02 7:46 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-08 15:43 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-08 17:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-04-08 17:20 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-04-08 17:26 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-08 17:24 ` James Bottomley
2025-04-09 7:17 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-27 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] vfs: add filesystem freeze/thaw callbacks for power management James Bottomley
2025-03-27 18:20 ` Jan Kara
2025-03-28 14:21 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 14:36 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 10:08 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 14:14 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-28 15:52 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 16:15 ` James Bottomley
2025-03-29 8:23 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 12:01 ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-28 14:40 ` James Bottomley
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