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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Justin Iurman <justin.iurman@uliege.be>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, kuniyu@amazon.com,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: lwtunnel: disable preemption when required
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:38:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250403163812.69ad4cb4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb0df409-ebbf-4970-b10c-4ea9f863ff00@uliege.be>

On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:08:12 +0200 Justin Iurman wrote:
> On 4/3/25 18:24, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > On 04/03, Justin Iurman wrote:  
> >> In lwtunnel_{input|output|xmit}(), dev_xmit_recursion() may be called in
> >> preemptible scope for PREEMPT kernels. This patch disables preemption
> >> before calling dev_xmit_recursion(). Preemption is re-enabled only at
> >> the end, since we must ensure the same CPU is used for both
> >> dev_xmit_recursion_inc() and dev_xmit_recursion_dec() (and any other
> >> recursion levels in some cases) in order to maintain valid per-cpu
> >> counters.  
> > 
> > Dummy question: CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT uses current->net_xmit.recursion to
> > track the recursion. Any reason not to do it in the generic PREEMPT case?  
> 
> I'd say PREEMPT_RT is a different beast. IMO, softirqs can be 
> preempted/migrated in RT kernels, which is not true for non-RT kernels. 
> Maybe RT kernels could use __this_cpu_* instead of "current" though, but 
> it would be less trivial. For example, see commit ecefbc09e8ee ("net: 
> softnet_data: Make xmit per task.") on why it makes sense to use 
> "current" in RT kernels. I guess the opposite as you suggest (i.e., 
> non-RT kernels using "current") would be technically possible, but there 
> must be a reason it is defined the way it is... so probably incorrect or 
> inefficient?

I suspect it's to avoid the performance overhead.
IIUC you would be better off using local_bh_disable() here.
It doesn't disable preemption on RT.
I don't believe "disable preemption if !RT" primitive exists.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-03 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-03  8:39 [PATCH net] net: lwtunnel: disable preemption when required Justin Iurman
2025-04-03 16:24 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-04-03 19:08   ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-03 20:35     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-04 14:19       ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-06  8:59         ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-07 17:54           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-11 18:34             ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-14 23:13               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-15  9:25                 ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-15 11:56                 ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-15  0:54               ` Andrea Mayer
2025-04-15  9:10                 ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-15 14:38                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-15 15:12                     ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-15 15:12                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-15 17:12                       ` Justin Iurman
2025-04-03 23:38     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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