[ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Hans Verkuil]

Hi all,

Here is my v4 of the draft (close to final) agenda for the media summit.

Changes since v3: added more attendees, added a new topic (cgroups) from Maxime.
Please note that I slightly reduced the length of some of the topics since we
have a packed agenda. Please let me know if you think you need more (or less!)
time then I put you down for in the agenda. My experience is that it tends to
average out (some topics take more time than expected, some less), but a good
estimate helps. I also updated the lunch information.

One important notice: it turned out that the meeting room does not actually have
dedicated video conference equipment. I'm trying to figure out a solution for this,
but for those that registered for remote attendance, be aware that it might not
work out or be of poor quality. I hope to have more information for you next week.

We have 18 in-person attendees, which is in line with previous summits, even though
the time since the last summit is less than usual and we are co-located with a
different conference. It's good to know that those changes didn't impact the turn-out.

Please note that I am transitioning from my old hverkuil@xs4all.nl email to
my new hans@jjverkuil.nl email. If you have problems replying to that new email,
please let me know and just send it to the old email (that won't go away).

The Media Summit will be held Tuesday May 13th to coincide with
the Embedded Recipes Conference in Nice, France:

https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/

Note that there are also some workshops held after this conference:

https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/

And a gStreamer hackfest:

https://discourse.gstreamer.org/t/gstreamer-spring-hackfest-2025-on-16-18-may-2025-in-nice-france/4366

The Media Summit will be held at Hotel Campanile:

https://nice-aeroport.campanile.com/en-us/

It is close to the Airport and to the Embedded Recipes venue.

The meeting room is sponsored by Collabora and Cisco Systems Norway.
The lunch is sponsored by Ideas on Board. Many thanks to our sponsors
for making this Media Summit possible!

We have the following confirmed in-person attendees:

Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> (Intel)
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> (Media Maintainer, Huawei)
Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com> (Collabora)
Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com> (Collabora)
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
Stefan Klug <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
Paul Kocialkowski <paulk@sys-base.io> (sys-base)
Jai Luthra <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
Benjamin Mugnier <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com> (STMicroelectronics)
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org> (Google)
Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com> (Raspberry Pi)
Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com> (Texas Instruments)
Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> (Media Maintainer, Cisco Systems Norway)
Arthur Vinchon <arthur.vinchon@allegrodvt.com> (Allegro DVT)

And the following remote participants:

Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
Martin Hecht <mhecht73@googlemail.com> (Avnet Silica)
Hu, Jerry W <jerry.w.hu@intel.com> (Intel)
jackson.lee <jackson.lee@chipsnmedia.com> (Chips 'n Media)
Mirela Rabulea <mirela.rabulea@nxp.com> (NXP)
Michael Tretter <m.tretter@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)

Note: information on how to connect remotely will come later. See also the notice
at the top of this email.

If any information above is incorrect, or if I missed someone, then please let me know asap.

Agenda:

9:00-9:30: Get settled :-)

9:30-9:40: Hans Verkuil: Quick introduction

9:40-10:25: Paul Kocialkowski: Stateless video encoding uAPI

10:25-11:15: Jai Luthra: Per-stream V4L2 controls

11:15-11:30: break

11:30-12:15: Sakari Ailus: Identifying camera modules

12:15-13:30: Lunch at L'Azur Bistrot Niçois

13:30-14:00: Laurent Pinchart: Review of the status of staging drivers

14:00-14:50: Hans de Goede: Discuss V4L2 subdev API ambiguities

14:50-15:10: Jacopo Mondi: Unify the multi-context support with the m2m context handling

15:10-15:25: break

15:25-15:50: Maxime Ripard: V4L2 & cgroups memory accounting

15:50-16:35: Ricardo Ribalda: Openness Framework for ISPs

16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers

Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.

Regards,

	Hans

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Laurent Pinchart]

On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Here is my v4 of the draft (close to final) agenda for the media summit.
> 
> Changes since v3: added more attendees, added a new topic (cgroups) from Maxime.
> Please note that I slightly reduced the length of some of the topics since we
> have a packed agenda. Please let me know if you think you need more (or less!)
> time then I put you down for in the agenda. My experience is that it tends to
> average out (some topics take more time than expected, some less), but a good
> estimate helps. I also updated the lunch information.
> 
> One important notice: it turned out that the meeting room does not actually have
> dedicated video conference equipment. I'm trying to figure out a solution for this,
> but for those that registered for remote attendance, be aware that it might not
> work out or be of poor quality. I hope to have more information for you next week.

I have two conference speakers
(https://us.ankerwork.com/collections/speaker/products/a3305) that I can
bring. We used them during the last libcamera workshop and the
experience was reasonable. No guarantee of fitness for the purpose
though, it depends on the size and configuration of the room.

> We have 18 in-person attendees, which is in line with previous summits, even though
> the time since the last summit is less than usual and we are co-located with a
> different conference. It's good to know that those changes didn't impact the turn-out.
> 
> Please note that I am transitioning from my old hverkuil@xs4all.nl email to
> my new hans@jjverkuil.nl email. If you have problems replying to that new email,
> please let me know and just send it to the old email (that won't go away).
> 
> The Media Summit will be held Tuesday May 13th to coincide with
> the Embedded Recipes Conference in Nice, France:
> 
> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
> 
> Note that there are also some workshops held after this conference:
> 
> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
> 
> And a gStreamer hackfest:
> 
> https://discourse.gstreamer.org/t/gstreamer-spring-hackfest-2025-on-16-18-may-2025-in-nice-france/4366
> 
> The Media Summit will be held at Hotel Campanile:
> 
> https://nice-aeroport.campanile.com/en-us/
> 
> It is close to the Airport and to the Embedded Recipes venue.
> 
> The meeting room is sponsored by Collabora and Cisco Systems Norway.
> The lunch is sponsored by Ideas on Board. Many thanks to our sponsors
> for making this Media Summit possible!
> 
> We have the following confirmed in-person attendees:
> 
> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> (Intel)
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> (Media Maintainer, Huawei)
> Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com> (Collabora)
> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com> (Collabora)
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
> Stefan Klug <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Paul Kocialkowski <paulk@sys-base.io> (sys-base)
> Jai Luthra <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Benjamin Mugnier <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com> (STMicroelectronics)
> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org> (Google)
> Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
> Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com> (Raspberry Pi)
> Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com> (Texas Instruments)
> Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> (Media Maintainer, Cisco Systems Norway)
> Arthur Vinchon <arthur.vinchon@allegrodvt.com> (Allegro DVT)
> 
> And the following remote participants:
> 
> Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
> Martin Hecht <mhecht73@googlemail.com> (Avnet Silica)
> Hu, Jerry W <jerry.w.hu@intel.com> (Intel)
> jackson.lee <jackson.lee@chipsnmedia.com> (Chips 'n Media)
> Mirela Rabulea <mirela.rabulea@nxp.com> (NXP)
> Michael Tretter <m.tretter@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
> 
> Note: information on how to connect remotely will come later. See also the notice
> at the top of this email.
> 
> If any information above is incorrect, or if I missed someone, then please let me know asap.
> 
> Agenda:
> 
> 9:00-9:30: Get settled :-)
> 
> 9:30-9:40: Hans Verkuil: Quick introduction
> 
> 9:40-10:25: Paul Kocialkowski: Stateless video encoding uAPI
> 
> 10:25-11:15: Jai Luthra: Per-stream V4L2 controls
> 
> 11:15-11:30: break
> 
> 11:30-12:15: Sakari Ailus: Identifying camera modules
> 
> 12:15-13:30: Lunch at L'Azur Bistrot Niçois

It will take about 10 minutes to walk to the restaurant, plus the time
to leave the room, so I have informed them we will arrive at 12:30.

> 13:30-14:00: Laurent Pinchart: Review of the status of staging drivers
> 
> 14:00-14:50: Hans de Goede: Discuss V4L2 subdev API ambiguities
> 
> 14:50-15:10: Jacopo Mondi: Unify the multi-context support with the m2m context handling
> 
> 15:10-15:25: break
> 
> 15:25-15:50: Maxime Ripard: V4L2 & cgroups memory accounting
> 
> 15:50-16:35: Ricardo Ribalda: Openness Framework for ISPs
> 
> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> 
> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Mattijs Korpershoek]

Hello,

On ven., mai 02, 2025 at 10:15, Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is my v4 of the draft (close to final) agenda for the media summit.
>
> Changes since v3: added more attendees, added a new topic (cgroups) from Maxime.
> Please note that I slightly reduced the length of some of the topics since we
> have a packed agenda. Please let me know if you think you need more (or less!)
> time then I put you down for in the agenda. My experience is that it tends to
> average out (some topics take more time than expected, some less), but a good
> estimate helps. I also updated the lunch information.
>
> One important notice: it turned out that the meeting room does not actually have
> dedicated video conference equipment. I'm trying to figure out a solution for this,
> but for those that registered for remote attendance, be aware that it might not
> work out or be of poor quality. I hope to have more information for you next week.
>
> We have 18 in-person attendees, which is in line with previous summits, even though
> the time since the last summit is less than usual and we are co-located with a
> different conference. It's good to know that those changes didn't impact the turn-out.
>
> Please note that I am transitioning from my old hverkuil@xs4all.nl email to
> my new hans@jjverkuil.nl email. If you have problems replying to that new email,
> please let me know and just send it to the old email (that won't go away).
>
> The Media Summit will be held Tuesday May 13th to coincide with
> the Embedded Recipes Conference in Nice, France:
>
> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
>
> Note that there are also some workshops held after this conference:
>
> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
>
> And a gStreamer hackfest:
>
> https://discourse.gstreamer.org/t/gstreamer-spring-hackfest-2025-on-16-18-may-2025-in-nice-france/4366
>
> The Media Summit will be held at Hotel Campanile:
>
> https://nice-aeroport.campanile.com/en-us/
>
> It is close to the Airport and to the Embedded Recipes venue.
>
> The meeting room is sponsored by Collabora and Cisco Systems Norway.
> The lunch is sponsored by Ideas on Board. Many thanks to our sponsors
> for making this Media Summit possible!
>
> We have the following confirmed in-person attendees:
>
> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> (Intel)
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> (Media Maintainer, Huawei)
> Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com> (Collabora)
> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com> (Collabora)
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
> Stefan Klug <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Paul Kocialkowski <paulk@sys-base.io> (sys-base)
> Jai Luthra <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Benjamin Mugnier <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com> (STMicroelectronics)
> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org> (Google)
> Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
> Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com> (Raspberry Pi)
> Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com> (Texas Instruments)
> Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> (Media Maintainer, Cisco Systems Norway)
> Arthur Vinchon <arthur.vinchon@allegrodvt.com> (Allegro DVT)

I know the deadline was friday, but I'm only certain since today that
I'll be able to travel :(

Is it still possible to join or is it too late for this year?

>
> And the following remote participants:
>
> Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
> Martin Hecht <mhecht73@googlemail.com> (Avnet Silica)
> Hu, Jerry W <jerry.w.hu@intel.com> (Intel)
> jackson.lee <jackson.lee@chipsnmedia.com> (Chips 'n Media)
> Mirela Rabulea <mirela.rabulea@nxp.com> (NXP)
> Michael Tretter <m.tretter@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
>
> Note: information on how to connect remotely will come later. See also the notice
> at the top of this email.
>
> If any information above is incorrect, or if I missed someone, then please let me know asap.
>
> Agenda:
>
> 9:00-9:30: Get settled :-)
>
> 9:30-9:40: Hans Verkuil: Quick introduction
>
> 9:40-10:25: Paul Kocialkowski: Stateless video encoding uAPI
>
> 10:25-11:15: Jai Luthra: Per-stream V4L2 controls
>
> 11:15-11:30: break
>
> 11:30-12:15: Sakari Ailus: Identifying camera modules
>
> 12:15-13:30: Lunch at L'Azur Bistrot Niçois
>
> 13:30-14:00: Laurent Pinchart: Review of the status of staging drivers
>
> 14:00-14:50: Hans de Goede: Discuss V4L2 subdev API ambiguities
>
> 14:50-15:10: Jacopo Mondi: Unify the multi-context support with the m2m context handling
>
> 15:10-15:25: break
>
> 15:25-15:50: Maxime Ripard: V4L2 & cgroups memory accounting
>
> 15:50-16:35: Ricardo Ribalda: Openness Framework for ISPs
>
> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
>
> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
>
> Regards,
>
> 	Hans

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Hans Verkuil]

On 5/5/25 16:32, Mattijs Korpershoek wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On ven., mai 02, 2025 at 10:15, Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here is my v4 of the draft (close to final) agenda for the media summit.
>>
>> Changes since v3: added more attendees, added a new topic (cgroups) from Maxime.
>> Please note that I slightly reduced the length of some of the topics since we
>> have a packed agenda. Please let me know if you think you need more (or less!)
>> time then I put you down for in the agenda. My experience is that it tends to
>> average out (some topics take more time than expected, some less), but a good
>> estimate helps. I also updated the lunch information.
>>
>> One important notice: it turned out that the meeting room does not actually have
>> dedicated video conference equipment. I'm trying to figure out a solution for this,
>> but for those that registered for remote attendance, be aware that it might not
>> work out or be of poor quality. I hope to have more information for you next week.
>>
>> We have 18 in-person attendees, which is in line with previous summits, even though
>> the time since the last summit is less than usual and we are co-located with a
>> different conference. It's good to know that those changes didn't impact the turn-out.
>>
>> Please note that I am transitioning from my old hverkuil@xs4all.nl email to
>> my new hans@jjverkuil.nl email. If you have problems replying to that new email,
>> please let me know and just send it to the old email (that won't go away).
>>
>> The Media Summit will be held Tuesday May 13th to coincide with
>> the Embedded Recipes Conference in Nice, France:
>>
>> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/
>>
>> Note that there are also some workshops held after this conference:
>>
>> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/workshops/
>>
>> And a gStreamer hackfest:
>>
>> https://discourse.gstreamer.org/t/gstreamer-spring-hackfest-2025-on-16-18-may-2025-in-nice-france/4366
>>
>> The Media Summit will be held at Hotel Campanile:
>>
>> https://nice-aeroport.campanile.com/en-us/
>>
>> It is close to the Airport and to the Embedded Recipes venue.
>>
>> The meeting room is sponsored by Collabora and Cisco Systems Norway.
>> The lunch is sponsored by Ideas on Board. Many thanks to our sponsors
>> for making this Media Summit possible!
>>
>> We have the following confirmed in-person attendees:
>>
>> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> (Intel)
>> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> (Media Maintainer, Huawei)
>> Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com> (Collabora)
>> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com> (Collabora)
>> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
>> Stefan Klug <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
>> Paul Kocialkowski <paulk@sys-base.io> (sys-base)
>> Jai Luthra <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
>> Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
>> Benjamin Mugnier <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com> (STMicroelectronics)
>> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
>> Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org> (Google)
>> Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
>> Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com> (Raspberry Pi)
>> Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com> (Texas Instruments)
>> Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
>> Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> (Media Maintainer, Cisco Systems Norway)
>> Arthur Vinchon <arthur.vinchon@allegrodvt.com> (Allegro DVT)
> I know the deadline was friday, but I'm only certain since today that
> I'll be able to travel :(
>
> Is it still possible to join or is it too late for this year?

That's why I allowed for late submissions :-)

I'll add you to the in-person attendee list.

See you next week!

    Hans

>
>> And the following remote participants:
>>
>> Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
>> Martin Hecht <mhecht73@googlemail.com> (Avnet Silica)
>> Hu, Jerry W <jerry.w.hu@intel.com> (Intel)
>> jackson.lee <jackson.lee@chipsnmedia.com> (Chips 'n Media)
>> Mirela Rabulea <mirela.rabulea@nxp.com> (NXP)
>> Michael Tretter <m.tretter@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
>>
>> Note: information on how to connect remotely will come later. See also the notice
>> at the top of this email.
>>
>> If any information above is incorrect, or if I missed someone, then please let me know asap.
>>
>> Agenda:
>>
>> 9:00-9:30: Get settled :-)
>>
>> 9:30-9:40: Hans Verkuil: Quick introduction
>>
>> 9:40-10:25: Paul Kocialkowski: Stateless video encoding uAPI
>>
>> 10:25-11:15: Jai Luthra: Per-stream V4L2 controls
>>
>> 11:15-11:30: break
>>
>> 11:30-12:15: Sakari Ailus: Identifying camera modules
>>
>> 12:15-13:30: Lunch at L'Azur Bistrot Niçois
>>
>> 13:30-14:00: Laurent Pinchart: Review of the status of staging drivers
>>
>> 14:00-14:50: Hans de Goede: Discuss V4L2 subdev API ambiguities
>>
>> 14:50-15:10: Jacopo Mondi: Unify the multi-context support with the m2m context handling
>>
>> 15:10-15:25: break
>>
>> 15:25-15:50: Maxime Ripard: V4L2 & cgroups memory accounting
>>
>> 15:50-16:35: Ricardo Ribalda: Openness Framework for ISPs
>>
>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
>>
>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> 	Hans

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Sakari Ailus]

Hans, Laurent, others,

On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> 
> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.

As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
too.

This is what we did the previous time
<URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.

I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
help with the arrangements.

Instead of key servers, there is
<URL:https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/pgpkeys.git/>. For initial
fingerprint distribution, e-mail or an editable document (over HTTPS)
probably works the best. I can provide an e-mail address / URL in case
there's a need to.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Mehdi Djait]

Hi Hans,

On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> We have the following confirmed in-person attendees:
> 
> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> (Intel)
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> (Media Maintainer, Huawei)
> Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com> (Collabora)
> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com> (Collabora)
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
> Stefan Klug <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Paul Kocialkowski <paulk@sys-base.io> (sys-base)
> Jai Luthra <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Benjamin Mugnier <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com> (STMicroelectronics)
> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org> (Google)
> Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com> (Red Hat)
> Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com> (Raspberry Pi)
> Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com> (Texas Instruments)
> Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com> (Ideas on Board)
> Hans Verkuil <hans@jjverkuil.nl> (Media Maintainer, Cisco Systems Norway)
> Arthur Vinchon <arthur.vinchon@allegrodvt.com> (Allegro DVT)
> 
> And the following remote participants:

Hi Hans, Sorry for the VERY late response. Is is possible to add me to
the remote participants list ?

Mehdi Djait <mehdi.djait@linux.intel.com> (Intel)

> 
> Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)
> Martin Hecht <mhecht73@googlemail.com> (Avnet Silica)
> Hu, Jerry W <jerry.w.hu@intel.com> (Intel)
> jackson.lee <jackson.lee@chipsnmedia.com> (Chips 'n Media)
> Mirela Rabulea <mirela.rabulea@nxp.com> (NXP)
> Michael Tretter <m.tretter@pengutronix.de> (Pengutronix)

--
Kind Regards
Mehdi Djait

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Laurent Pinchart]

On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hans, Laurent, others,
> 
> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> > 
> > Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
> 
> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
> too.
> 
> This is what we did the previous time
> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
> 
> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
> help with the arrangements.

I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
free to take the lead :-)

> Instead of key servers, there is
> <URL:https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/pgpkeys.git/>. For initial
> fingerprint distribution, e-mail or an editable document (over HTTPS)
> probably works the best. I can provide an e-mail address / URL in case
> there's a need to.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Hans de Goede]

Hi,

On 9-May-25 11:40 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>> Hans, Laurent, others,
>>
>> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
>>>
>>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
>>
>> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
>> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
>> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
>> too.
>>
>> This is what we did the previous time
>> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
>>
>> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
>> help with the arrangements.
> 
> I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
> free to take the lead :-)

Embeddedrecipes will also have a key-signing event, see:

https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/attend/

So it might be best if people who want to have their keys signed
just join that ?

Regards,

Hans

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Sakari Ailus]

Hi Hans, others,

On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:13:57PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 9-May-25 11:40 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> >> Hans, Laurent, others,
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> >>>
> >>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
> >>
> >> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
> >> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
> >> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
> >> too.
> >>
> >> This is what we did the previous time
> >> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
> >>
> >> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
> >> help with the arrangements.
> > 
> > I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
> > free to take the lead :-)
> 
> Embeddedrecipes will also have a key-signing event, see:
> 
> https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/attend/
> 
> So it might be best if people who want to have their keys signed
> just join that ?

It's very nice they do. I presume many attendees will also attend ER
keysigning party but I'm not sure how many. As we're moving to the new
multi-committer model, having potential committers' keys signed by the
maintainers is even more important now than it used to be.

-- 
Regards,

Sakari Ailus

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Laurent Pinchart]

On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:40:37AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:13:57PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > On 9-May-25 11:40 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >> Hans, Laurent, others,
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > >>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> > >>>
> > >>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
> > >>
> > >> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
> > >> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
> > >> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
> > >> too.
> > >>
> > >> This is what we did the previous time
> > >> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
> > >> help with the arrangements.
> > > 
> > > I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
> > > free to take the lead :-)
> > 
> > Embeddedrecipes will also have a key-signing event, see:
> > 
> > https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/attend/
> > 
> > So it might be best if people who want to have their keys signed
> > just join that ?
> 
> It's very nice they do. I presume many attendees will also attend ER
> keysigning party but I'm not sure how many. As we're moving to the new
> multi-committer model, having potential committers' keys signed by the
> maintainers is even more important now than it used to be.

Unless I'm missing something, the multi-committer model won't make use
of GPG to push and merge.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Sakari Ailus]

Hi Laurent,

On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:46:56PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:40:37AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:13:57PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > > On 9-May-25 11:40 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > >> Hans, Laurent, others,
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > >>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
> > > >>
> > > >> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
> > > >> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
> > > >> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
> > > >> too.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is what we did the previous time
> > > >> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
> > > >>
> > > >> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
> > > >> help with the arrangements.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
> > > > free to take the lead :-)
> > > 
> > > Embeddedrecipes will also have a key-signing event, see:
> > > 
> > > https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/attend/
> > > 
> > > So it might be best if people who want to have their keys signed
> > > just join that ?
> > 
> > It's very nice they do. I presume many attendees will also attend ER
> > keysigning party but I'm not sure how many. As we're moving to the new
> > multi-committer model, having potential committers' keys signed by the
> > maintainers is even more important now than it used to be.
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, the multi-committer model won't make use
> of GPG to push and merge.

There's no direct dependency to that at the moment. In the future we may
not want to trust infrastructure as much as we do at the moment, and
changing that probably means using GPG in a way or another.

-- 
Sakari Ailus

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Laurent Pinchart]

On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:53:26AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:46:56PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:40:37AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:13:57PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > > > On 9-May-25 11:40 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > >> Hans, Laurent, others,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > > >>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
> > > > >> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
> > > > >> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
> > > > >> too.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This is what we did the previous time
> > > > >> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
> > > > >> help with the arrangements.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
> > > > > free to take the lead :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Embeddedrecipes will also have a key-signing event, see:
> > > > 
> > > > https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/attend/
> > > > 
> > > > So it might be best if people who want to have their keys signed
> > > > just join that ?
> > > 
> > > It's very nice they do. I presume many attendees will also attend ER
> > > keysigning party but I'm not sure how many. As we're moving to the new
> > > multi-committer model, having potential committers' keys signed by the
> > > maintainers is even more important now than it used to be.
> > 
> > Unless I'm missing something, the multi-committer model won't make use
> > of GPG to push and merge.
> 
> There's no direct dependency to that at the moment. In the future we may
> not want to trust infrastructure as much as we do at the moment, and
> changing that probably means using GPG in a way or another.

That means merging signed tags instead of rebasing and pushing in
fast-forward mode. I personally think that merging is better, but I have
given up on convicing everybody else.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

Re: [ANN] Media Summit May 13th: Draft Agenda (v4)

[Mauro Carvalho Chehab]

Em Fri, 9 May 2025 12:46:56 +0200
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> escreveu:

> On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 10:40:37AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 12:13:57PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:  
> > > On 9-May-25 11:40 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:  
> > > > On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 03:26:22PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:  
> > > >> Hans, Laurent, others,
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:  
> > > >>> 16:35-17:30: Hans Verkuil: Status of Media CI/Multi-committers
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to the agenda.  
> > > >>
> > > >> As it seems we might have a little bit of time left, I'd like to propose a
> > > >> keysigning party we haven't done for a few years now. We have some new
> > > >> people here and the folks who have been around for longer have new keys,
> > > >> too.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is what we did the previous time
> > > >> <URL:https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/YxhplLKtRAQzlSK/@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/>.
> > > >>
> > > >> I wonder if Laurent would like to do the same this time around. I can also
> > > >> help with the arrangements.  
> > > > 
> > > > I don't mind signing keys, but I won't have time to organize it. Feel
> > > > free to take the lead :-)  
> > > 
> > > Embeddedrecipes will also have a key-signing event, see:
> > > 
> > > https://embedded-recipes.org/2025/attend/
> > > 
> > > So it might be best if people who want to have their keys signed
> > > just join that ?  
> > 
> > It's very nice they do. I presume many attendees will also attend ER
> > keysigning party but I'm not sure how many. As we're moving to the new
> > multi-committer model, having potential committers' keys signed by the
> > maintainers is even more important now than it used to be.  
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, the multi-committer model won't make use
> of GPG to push and merge.

We will still require a GPG signature. The difference is that, instead
of requiring it per commit, it will be required when someone is willing
to become a committer, at his letter of intent. The public key used for
such task is meant to be stored at the kernel.org keychain.

Regards,
Mauro