[LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[Petr Vorel]

valgrind-developers has heavy traffic, use valgrind-announce.

Fixes: 93039e4384 ("doc: ltp_release_procedure: Add valgrind-developers ML")
Signed-off-by: Petr Vorel <pvorel@suse.cz>
---
 doc/maintainers/ltp_release_procedure.rst | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/doc/maintainers/ltp_release_procedure.rst b/doc/maintainers/ltp_release_procedure.rst
index 6dbafa4f81..24ea864b03 100644
--- a/doc/maintainers/ltp_release_procedure.rst
+++ b/doc/maintainers/ltp_release_procedure.rst
@@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ The announcement is sent to:
 * ltp at lists.linux.it (requires a subscription)
 * linux-kernel at vger.kernel.org
 * libc-alpha at sourceware.org (requires a subscription)
-* valgrind-developers at lists.sourceforge.net (requires a subscription)
+* valgrind-announce at lists.sourceforge.net (requires a subscription)
 
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Re: [LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[Cyril Hrubis]

Hi!
> valgrind-developers has heavy traffic, use valgrind-announce.

Was this requested by valgrind devs? I suppose this is fine as long as
we get their ack.

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Re: [LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[Mark Wielaard]

Hi,

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:45:50AM +0200, Cyril Hrubis wrote:
> > valgrind-developers has heavy traffic, use valgrind-announce.
> 
> Was this requested by valgrind devs? I suppose this is fine as long as
> we get their ack.

I think valgrind-developers is a better place for announcing new
versions of LTP.  We can then update our own valgrind testing.
valgrind-announce is really for users when valgrind itself has a new
release.

Cheers,

Mark

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Re: [LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[Petr Vorel]

Hi Mark, Cyril, all,

> Hi,

> On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:45:50AM +0200, Cyril Hrubis wrote:
> > > valgrind-developers has heavy traffic, use valgrind-announce.

> > Was this requested by valgrind devs? I suppose this is fine as long as
> > we get their ack.

> I think valgrind-developers is a better place for announcing new
> versions of LTP.  We can then update our own valgrind testing.
> valgrind-announce is really for users when valgrind itself has a new
> release.

Sure, let's keep valgrind-developers. Thanks for feedback.

I would consider it disturbing for myself to need to subscribe on
valgrind-developers before the release and unsubscribe then, but
it's Cyril who is going to send the announcement mail anyway.

Kind regards,
Petr

> Cheers,

> Mark

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Re: [LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[Mark Wielaard]

Hi Petr, Hi Cyril,

On Fri, 2025-05-16 at 14:09 +0200, Petr Vorel wrote:
> > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:45:50AM +0200, Cyril Hrubis wrote:
> > > > valgrind-developers has heavy traffic, use valgrind-announce.
> 
> > > Was this requested by valgrind devs? I suppose this is fine as long as
> > > we get their ack.
> 
> > I think valgrind-developers is a better place for announcing new
> > versions of LTP.  We can then update our own valgrind testing.
> > valgrind-announce is really for users when valgrind itself has a new
> > release.
> 
> Sure, let's keep valgrind-developers. Thanks for feedback.
> 
> I would consider it disturbing for myself to need to subscribe on
> valgrind-developers before the release and unsubscribe then, but
> it's Cyril who is going to send the announcement mail anyway.

You don't really need to subscribe tp valgrind-developers. If you
aren't subscribed then the message goes to moderation and will normally
be approved within a day (and the sender is normally added to the
approved list). I think this is similar to the ltp list (I am not
subscribed, but seem able to post anyway).

Cheers,

Mark

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Re: [LTP] [PATCH] valgrind-announce: Update valgrind ML

[Petr Vorel]

Hi Mark,

> Hi Petr, Hi Cyril,

> On Fri, 2025-05-16 at 14:09 +0200, Petr Vorel wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:45:50AM +0200, Cyril Hrubis wrote:
> > > > > valgrind-developers has heavy traffic, use valgrind-announce.

> > > > Was this requested by valgrind devs? I suppose this is fine as long as
> > > > we get their ack.

> > > I think valgrind-developers is a better place for announcing new
> > > versions of LTP.  We can then update our own valgrind testing.
> > > valgrind-announce is really for users when valgrind itself has a new
> > > release.

> > Sure, let's keep valgrind-developers. Thanks for feedback.

> > I would consider it disturbing for myself to need to subscribe on
> > valgrind-developers before the release and unsubscribe then, but
> > it's Cyril who is going to send the announcement mail anyway.

> You don't really need to subscribe tp valgrind-developers. If you
> aren't subscribed then the message goes to moderation and will normally
> be approved within a day (and the sender is normally added to the
> approved list). I think this is similar to the ltp list (I am not
> subscribed, but seem able to post anyway).

Great, we can rely on you looking at the "pending moderator requests".

This is also maintained on our side, mostly by Cyril. When I notice valid mail
(there is a lot of spam of course) I approve the sender to be able to send
without a subscription.

I got used to mailing lists on lore.kernel.org to which one can post without any
subscription. Also kernel developers got used to it (as they often send to LTP
ML without a subscription). But I'm never sure if the "pending moderator requests"
on other MLs is actively monitored.

Kind regards,
Petr

> Cheers,

> Mark

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