From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:20:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250516142024.GA21503@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250516130547.GV1509@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 09:05:47AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> In general, raw kernel interfaces do not conform to any version of
> POSIX; they're just a low-impedance-mismatch set of inferfaces that
> facilitate implementing POSIX at the userspace libc layer. So I don't
> think this should be documented as "Linux doesn't conform" but
> (hopefully, once glibc fixes this) "old versions of glibc did not
> conform".
If glibc maintainers want to deal with breaking userspace, then as a
kernel developer, I'm happy to let them deal with the
angry/disappointed users and application programmers. :-)
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-16 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 21:33 close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-16 12:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 12:52 ` [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 13:05 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:20 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2025-05-17 5:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:43 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:39 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 14:52 ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:32 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-23 18:10 ` Zack Weinberg
2025-05-24 2:24 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 17:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 17:46 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 18:39 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 19:00 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 20:11 ` Paul Eggert
2026-01-20 20:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 20:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 0:33 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-23 1:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 1:38 ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 14:44 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 14:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-24 19:34 ` The 8472
2026-01-24 21:39 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-24 21:57 ` The 8472
2026-01-25 15:37 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-26 8:51 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-26 12:15 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 13:53 ` The 8472
2026-01-26 15:56 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 16:43 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-26 23:01 ` Trevor Gross
2026-01-27 0:49 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-02-05 9:34 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-24 19:25 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-18 22:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 16:15 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 16:36 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 19:17 ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 15:13 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 12:41 ` close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Mateusz Guzik
2025-05-16 12:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-19 23:19 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-20 13:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-20 23:16 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-16 19:13 ` Al Viro
2025-05-19 9:48 ` Christian Brauner
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