From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 16:52:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyc8oben.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250516143957.GB5388@qaa.vinc17.org> (Vincent Lefevre's message of "Fri, 16 May 2025 16:39:57 +0200")
* Vincent Lefevre:
> On 2025-05-16 09:05:47 -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
>> FWIW musl adopted the EINPROGRESS as soon as we were made aware of the
>> issue, and later changed it to returning 0 since applications
>> (particularly, any written prior to this interpretation) are prone to
>> interpret EINPROGRESS as an error condition rather than success and
>> possibly misinterpret it as meaning the fd is still open and valid to
>> pass to close again.
>
> If I understand correctly, this is a poor choice. POSIX.1-2024 says:
>
> ERRORS
> The close() and posix_close() functions shall fail if:
> [...]
> [EINPROGRESS]
> The function was interrupted by a signal and fildes was closed
> but the close operation is continuing asynchronously.
>
> But this does not mean that the asynchronous close operation will
> succeed.
>
> So the application could incorrectly deduce that the close operation
> was done without any error.
But on Linux, close traditionally has poor error reporting anyway. You
have to fsync (or equivalent) before calling close if you want error
checking. On other systems, the fsync is more or less implied by the
close, leading to rather poor performance.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-16 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 21:33 close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-16 12:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 12:52 ` [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 13:05 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-17 5:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:43 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:39 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 14:52 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:32 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-23 18:10 ` Zack Weinberg
2025-05-24 2:24 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 17:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 17:46 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 18:39 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 19:00 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 20:11 ` Paul Eggert
2026-01-20 20:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 20:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 0:33 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-23 1:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 1:38 ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 14:44 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 14:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-24 19:34 ` The 8472
2026-01-24 21:39 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-24 21:57 ` The 8472
2026-01-25 15:37 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-26 8:51 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-26 12:15 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 13:53 ` The 8472
2026-01-26 15:56 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 16:43 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-26 23:01 ` Trevor Gross
2026-01-27 0:49 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-02-05 9:34 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-24 19:25 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-18 22:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 16:15 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 16:36 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 19:17 ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 15:13 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 12:41 ` close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Mateusz Guzik
2025-05-16 12:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-19 23:19 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-20 13:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-20 23:16 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-16 19:13 ` Al Viro
2025-05-19 9:48 ` Christian Brauner
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