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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Cc: "Jiri Slaby (SUSE)" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 29/33] serial: 8250: drop DEBUG_AUTOCONF() macro
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:42:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025061733-pushy-croon-08da@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2506171216090.37405@angie.orcam.me.uk>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 12:32:48PM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2025, Jiri Slaby (SUSE) wrote:
> 
> > DEBUG_AUTOCONF() is always disabled (by "#if 0"), so one would need to
> > recompile the kernel to use it. And even if they did, they would find
> > out it is broken anyway:
> >   error: variable 'scratch' is used uninitialized whenever 'if' condition is false
> 
>  This is removing useful debugging aids.

How can it be "useful" if it's broken and no one has ever reported that?

>  The issue with compilation is related to commit 3398cc4f2b15 ("serial: 
> 8250: Add IIR FIFOs enabled field properly"), which removed the assignment 
> of IIR to `scratch' (although a path did exist before it that bypassed the 
> assignment anyway), and can be trivially fixed by bringing the assignment 
> back and moving the debug statement next to it.

So it's been broken for over 2 years and no one has asked for it to be
fixed?

>  I agree that "#if 0" isn't very useful as it requires patching the source 
> to activate; changing it to "#ifdef DEBUG" would make more sense nowadays.

No, dynamic debugging is the proper solution, not build-time stuff.  If
you really need/want this, add it back in that way, not this old-style
"let's rebuild the whole kernel" type of thing.  This isn't the 1990's
anymore :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-17 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-11 10:02 [PATCH 00/33] tty: summer cleanup Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 01/33] tty: introduce and use tty_port_tty_vhangup() helper Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 10:35   ` [01/33] " bluez.test.bot
2025-06-11 11:13   ` [PATCH 01/33] " Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-23  7:30     ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 02/33] powerpc/legacy_serial: cache serial port and info in add_legacy_port() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:15   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 03/33] powerpc/legacy_serial: use %pa for phys_addr_t prints Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 04/33] m68k: remove unneeded tty includes Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:22   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-17 12:29   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 05/33] powerpc/powermac: " Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:25   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 06/33] tty: vt: use sane types for userspace API Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 14:38   ` Nicolas Pitre
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 07/33] tty: vt: use _IO() to define ioctl numbers Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:30   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 14:42   ` Nicolas Pitre
2025-07-31 14:35   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-07-31 14:41     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-07-31 20:58       ` Nicolas Pitre
2025-08-01  4:47         ` Jiri Slaby
2025-08-01  7:38           ` Greg KH
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 08/33] serial: 8250: sanitize uart_port::serial_{in,out}() types Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 15:12   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-23  6:55     ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 09/33] serial: 8250: remove CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RSA inline macros from code Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:42   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 11:46   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 10/33] serial: 8250: invert conditions in RSA functions Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:45   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 11/33] serial: 8250: put RSA functions to their namespace Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:54   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 12/33] serial: 8250: move RSA functions to 8250_rsa.c Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:49   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:02 ` [PATCH 13/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_startup_special() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 11:53   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 14/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_TRG_levels() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:07   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 15/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_THRE_test() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:03   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-12  8:54     ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-12  9:18       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 16/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_initialize() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:19   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-23  6:59     ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 17/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_clear_interrupts() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:27   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 18/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_mini() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:29   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 19/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_trigger_for_slow_speed() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:34   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 20/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_afe() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:35   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 21/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_errors_and_ignores Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:43   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 22/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_ier() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:47   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 23/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_efr() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 12:58   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-12 10:01     ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-12 10:04       ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-12 13:33         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-12 18:54       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-23  7:20         ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 24/33] serial: 8250: extract serial8250_set_fcr() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:01   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 25/33] serial: 8250: lcr compute cleanup Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:03   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 26/33] serial: 8250: drop unused frac from serial8250_do_get_divisor() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:04   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 27/33] serial: 8250: extract serial_get_or_create_irq_info() Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:09   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 28/33] serial: 8250: remove debug prints from ISR Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:09   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 29/33] serial: 8250: drop DEBUG_AUTOCONF() macro Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:10   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-17 11:32   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-06-17 11:42     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2025-06-17 13:21       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 30/33] serial: 8250: invert serial8250_register_8250_port() CIR condition Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:21   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-18  5:48   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-20 21:48     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-06-21 19:08       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-23  7:05         ` Jiri Slaby
2025-06-23  7:17           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 31/33] serial: 8250: invert condition to avoid a goto label Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-18  5:45   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 32/33] serial: 8250: use hashtable Jiri Slaby (SUSE)
2025-06-11 13:25   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-06-11 10:03 ` [PATCH 33/33] serial: 8250_omap: use uart_port pointer when available Jiri Slaby (SUSE)

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