From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: John Groves <John@groves.net>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC V2 11/18] famfs_fuse: Basic famfs mount opts
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 22:54:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250712055405.GK2672029@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ttjh3gqk3fmykwrb7dg6xaqhkpxk7g773fkvuzvbdlefimpseg@l5ermgxixeen>
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 10:28:20AM -0500, John Groves wrote:
> On 25/07/08 08:59PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:50:25PM -0500, John Groves wrote:
> > > * -o shadow=<shadowpath>
> >
> > What is a shadow?
> >
> > > * -o daxdev=<daxdev>
>
> Derp - OK, that's a stale commit message. Here is the one for the -next
> version of this patch:
>
> famfs_fuse: Basic famfs mount opt: -o shadow=<shadowpath>
>
> The shadow path is a (usually tmpfs) file system area used by the famfs
> user space to commuicate with the famfs fuse server. There is a minor
> dilemma that the user space tools must be able to resolve from a mount
> point path to a shadow path. The shadow path is exposed via /proc/mounts,
> but otherwise not used by the kernel. User space gets the shadow path
> from /proc/mounts...
Ah. A service directory, of sorts.
> > And, uh, if there's a FUSE_GET_DAXDEV command, then what does this mount
> > option do? Pre-populate the first element of that set?
> >
> > --D
> >
>
> I took out -o daxdev, but had failed to update the commit msg.
>
> The logic is this: The general model requires the FUSE_GET_DAXDEV message /
> response, so passing in the primary daxdev as a -o arg creates two ways to
> do the same thing.
>
> The only initial heartburn about this was one could imagine a case where a
> mount happens, but no I/O happens for a while so the mount could "succeed",
> only to fail later if the primary daxdev could not be accessed.
>
> But this can't happen with famfs, because the mount procedure includes
> creating "meta files" - .meta/.superblock and .meta/.log and accessing them
> immediately. So it is guaranteed that FUSE_GET_DAXDEV will be sent right away,
> and if it fails, the mount will be unwound.
<nod>
--D
> Thanks Darrick!
> John
>
> <snip>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-12 5:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-03 18:50 [RFC V2 00/18] famfs: port into fuse John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 01/18] dev_dax_iomap: Move dax_pgoff_to_phys() from device.c to bus.c John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 02/18] dev_dax_iomap: Add fs_dax_get() func to prepare dax for fs-dax usage John Groves
2025-07-04 10:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-04 12:54 ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 03/18] dev_dax_iomap: Save the kva from memremap John Groves
2025-07-04 11:11 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 04/18] dev_dax_iomap: Add dax_operations for use by fs-dax on devdax John Groves
2025-07-04 12:47 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-05 22:56 ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 05/18] dev_dax_iomap: export dax_dev_get() John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 06/18] dev_dax_iomap: (ignore!) Drop poisoned page warning in fs/dax.c John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 07/18] famfs_fuse: magic.h: Add famfs magic numbers John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 08/18] famfs_fuse: Kconfig John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 09/18] famfs_fuse: Update macro s/FUSE_IS_DAX/FUSE_IS_VIRTIO_DAX/ John Groves
2025-07-04 8:44 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 10/18] famfs_fuse: Basic fuse kernel ABI enablement for famfs John Groves
2025-07-03 22:45 ` John Groves
2025-07-07 17:32 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-04 7:54 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-04 13:39 ` John Groves
2025-07-07 17:39 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-08 12:02 ` John Groves
2025-07-09 1:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-11 1:32 ` John Groves
2025-07-12 4:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-11 18:30 ` John Groves
2025-08-12 16:37 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-13 13:07 ` John Groves
2025-08-14 17:16 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 11/18] famfs_fuse: Basic famfs mount opts John Groves
2025-07-09 3:59 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-11 15:28 ` John Groves
2025-07-12 5:54 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-08-14 10:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 14:39 ` John Groves
2025-08-14 15:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 23:52 ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 12/18] famfs_fuse: Plumb the GET_FMAP message/response John Groves
2025-07-04 8:54 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-04 20:30 ` John Groves
2025-07-05 0:06 ` John Groves
2025-07-05 7:58 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-05 19:17 ` John Groves
2025-07-09 4:27 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-11 13:46 ` John Groves
2025-08-14 13:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 14:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 18:20 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 15:06 ` John Groves
2025-08-19 21:55 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 16:53 ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:13 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-14 18:05 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-16 15:00 ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:17 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 0:38 ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 13/18] famfs_fuse: Create files with famfs fmaps John Groves
2025-07-04 9:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-05 19:27 ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 14/18] famfs_fuse: GET_DAXDEV message and daxdev_table John Groves
2025-07-04 13:20 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-06 17:07 ` John Groves
2025-08-14 13:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 17:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-14 18:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 18:55 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-14 19:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-16 16:22 ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:32 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 16:38 ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 15/18] famfs_fuse: Plumb dax iomap and fuse read/write/mmap John Groves
2025-07-04 9:13 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-05 19:44 ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 16/18] famfs_fuse: Add holder_operations for dax notify_failure() John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 17/18] famfs_fuse: Add famfs metadata documentation John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 18/18] famfs_fuse: Add documentation John Groves
2025-07-04 0:27 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04 2:22 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-04 3:53 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04 18:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-04 23:29 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04 23:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-05 1:11 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04 6:09 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-04 8:27 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-04 23:36 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-03 18:56 ` [RFC V2 00/18] famfs: port into fuse John Groves
2025-07-09 3:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-07-11 1:18 ` John Groves
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