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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lgoncalv@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	David Vernet <dvernet@meta.com>, Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Crystal Wood <crwood@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: usage of DEFINE_WAIT_OVERRIDE_MAP(LD_WAIT_SLEEP)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:29:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251023152942.GC26461@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251023135316.1ZRx0UU5@linutronix.de>

On 10/23, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>
> On 2025-10-20 16:53:10 [+0200], Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > If CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y and preemptible() is true, LD_WAIT_CONFIG won't work.
> > lockdep will complain if fill_pool() takes a spinlock_t, spinlock is
> > LD_WAIT_SLEEP on RT.
>
> Where is this? This is then wrong then because _SLEEP is for MUTEX and
> those things that sleep-sleep and pretend to sleep.
>
> spinlock_t should be LD_WAIT_CONFIG. This is used in
> include/linux/spinlock_types.h via SPIN_DEP_MAP_INIT which is only
> defined once as LD_WAIT_CONFIG.

Hmm. I'll recheck, quite possibly I missed something.

But. From include/linux/spinlock_types.h

	/* PREEMPT_RT kernels map spinlock to rt_mutex */
	#include <linux/rtmutex.h>

	typedef struct spinlock {
		struct rt_mutex_base	lock;
	#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
		struct lockdep_map	dep_map;
	#endif
	} spinlock_t;

> rt_mutex is defined as LD_WAIT_SLEEP but this one is not the one we use
> for spinlock_t.

see above...

> What you want to have working in the end is the following scenario:
>
> |static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(lock_spinlock);
> |static DEFINE_RAW_SPINLOCK(lock_raw_spinlock);
> |static DEFINE_RAW_SPINLOCK(lock_raw_spinlock2);
> |
> |static void lockdep_test(void)
> |{
> |        static DEFINE_WAIT_OVERRIDE_MAP(put_task_map, LD_WAIT_CONFIG);
> |
> |        raw_spin_lock(&lock_raw_spinlock);
> |        lock_map_acquire_try(&put_task_map);
> |
> |        spin_lock(&lock_spinlock);

Yes, but this won't work on RT? Again, I didn't check (yet), possibly I am
wrong...

> This will work. On RT as well but is wrong and will not happen due to
> the preemptible() check. On !RT it will so you want lockdep to be quiet.

See above and please correct me.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-23 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07 14:03 [PATCH v6] sched: do not call __put_task_struct() on rt if pi_blocked_on is set Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-10 16:19 ` Valentin Schneider
2025-07-14 14:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-16 10:19 ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Do " tip-bot2 for Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-28 20:14 ` [PATCH v6] sched: do " Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-29  7:33   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-29 11:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-29 12:45       ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-29 13:09         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-01 10:24           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-01 10:51             ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-08-11 10:59             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-11 11:06               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-11 12:16                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-11 12:19                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-11 12:27                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-20 14:53               ` usage of DEFINE_WAIT_OVERRIDE_MAP(LD_WAIT_SLEEP) Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-23 13:53                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-23 15:29                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-10-23 15:37                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-23 15:53                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-23 19:23                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-24 10:26                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-10-24 10:39                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-24 15:19                               ` Oleg Nesterov

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