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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Benson Leung" <bleung@chromium.org>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <groeck@chromium.org>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel W. S. Almeida" <dwlsalmeida@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] units: Add value of π * 10⁹
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 09:27:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028092723.3403d122@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQB55GjWQL3VD1MO@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 10:08:04 +0200
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 07:30:33PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 15:34:51 +0100
> > Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > There are a few drivers that want to have this value, and at least one
> > > known to come soon. Let's define a value for them.  
> 
> > > +/* Value of π * 10⁹ */

Thinks - should non-ascii characters be allowed in comments.
They can cause grief.

> > > +#define PI	3141592653LL  
> > 
> > Is that the right value?
> > IIRC the next digits are 58979 (I used to know the next few as well)
> > which means it should be rounded up.  
> 
> Right, today I have the same thought that actually ChromeOS driver has a
> off-by-one issue there.

Not as though it is likely to make a difference.
If any code needs anything more accurate than 3.1416 it probably cares
whether the value is rounded down or up.

> Btw, do you know if we can have compile-time divisions that can make 32-bit
> constants out of the 64-bit input? DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST_ULL() doesn't seem allow
> that.

Not sure, I did wonder how much thought had gone into the LL suffix.
The value used will fit in u32 - but then any maths becomes unsigned.
OTOH using LL forces 64bit maths on 32bit - not good.

I suspect it would be better to drop a digit so the value fits in a
signed 32bit variable.

The other issue is whether scaling by a power of 10 is even right.
If the code has to rescale the value using divides you really want
to divide by a big power of 2 not 10.
So multiplying by 2**29 may be more useful.

	David






  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 14:34 [PATCH v1 0/6] iio: Introduce and use value of π Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-27 14:34 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] media: vidtv: Rename PI definition to PI_SAMPLES Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-30  7:24   ` Hans Verkuil
2025-10-27 14:34 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] units: Add value of π * 10⁹ Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-27 14:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-27 14:59     ` David Lechner
2025-10-28  8:09       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-27 19:30   ` David Laight
2025-10-28  8:08     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-28  9:27       ` David Laight [this message]
2025-10-27 14:34 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] media: dvb-frontends: atbm8830: Convert to use PI definition Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-30  7:26   ` Hans Verkuil
2025-10-27 14:34 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] iio: cros_ec_sensors: " Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-27 14:34 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] iio: frequency: ad9523: " Andy Shevchenko
2025-10-27 14:34 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] iio: position: iqs624-pos: " Andy Shevchenko

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