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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	devel@lists.libvirt.org, "Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>
Subject: [PULL 32/32] docs: creation of x509 certs compliant with post-quantum crypto
Date: Mon,  3 Nov 2025 13:37:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251103133727.423041-33-berrange@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251103133727.423041-1-berrange@redhat.com>

Explain how to alter the certtool commands for creating certficates,
so that they can use algorithms that are compliant with post-quantum
crytography standards.

Reviewed-by: Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
---
 docs/system/tls.rst | 68 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 68 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/system/tls.rst b/docs/system/tls.rst
index 7cec4ac3df..03fa1d8166 100644
--- a/docs/system/tls.rst
+++ b/docs/system/tls.rst
@@ -345,6 +345,74 @@ example with VNC:
 
 .. _tls_005fpsk:
 
+TLS certificates for Post-Quantum Cryptography
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+Given a new enough gnutls release, suitably integrated & configured with the
+operating system crypto policies, QEMU is able to support post-quantum
+crytography on TLS enabled services, either exclusively or in a hybrid mode.
+
+In exclusive mode, only a single set of certificates need to be configured
+for QEMU, with PQC compliant algorithms. Such a QEMU configuration will only
+be able to interoperate with other services (including other QEMU's) that
+also have PQC enabled. This can result in compatibility concerns during the
+period of transition over to PQC compliant algorithms.
+
+In hybrid mode, multiple sets of certificates need to be configured for QEMU,
+at least one set with traditional (non-PQC compliant) algorithms, and at least
+one other set with modern (PQC compliant) algorithms. At time of the TLS
+handshake, the GNUTLS algorithm priorities should ensure that PQC compliant
+algorithms are negotiated if both sides of the connection support PQC. If one
+side lacks PQC, the TLS handshake should fallback to the non-PQC algorithms.
+This can assist with interoperability during the transition to PQC, but has a
+potential weakness wrt downgrade attacks forcing use of non-PQC algorithms.
+Exclusive PQC mode should be preferred where both peers in the TLS connections
+are known to support PQC.
+
+Key generation parameters
+^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+
+To create certificates with PQC compliant algorithms, the ``--key-type``
+argument must be passed to ``certtool`` when creating private keys. No
+extra arguments are required for the other ``certtool`` commands, as
+their behaviour will be determined by the private key type.
+
+The typical PQC compliant algorithms to use are ``ML-DSA-44``, ``ML-DSA-65``
+and ``ML-DSA-87``, with ``ML-DSA-65`` being a suitable default choice in
+the absence of explicit requirements.
+
+Taking the example earlier, for creating a key for a client certificate,
+to use ``ML-DSA-65`` the command line would be modified to look like::
+
+   # certtool --generate-privkey --key-type=mldsa65 > client-hostNNN-key.pem
+
+The equivalent modification applies to the creation of the private keys
+used for server certs, or root/intermediate CA certs.
+
+For hybrid mode, the additional indexed certificate naming must be used.
+If multiple configured certificates are compatible with the mutually
+supported crypto algorithms between the client and server, then the
+first matching certificate will be used.
+
+IOW, to ensure that PQC certificates are preferred, they must use a
+non-index based filename, or use an index that is smaller than any
+non-PQC certificates. ie, ``server-cert.pem`` for PQC and ``server-cert-0.pem``
+for non-PQC, or ``server-cert-0.pem`` for PQC and ``server-cert-1.pem`` for
+non-PQC.
+
+Force disabling PQC via crypto priority
+^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+
+In the OS configuration for system crypto algorithm priorities has
+enabled PQC, this can (optionally) be overriden in QEMU configuration
+disable use of PQC using the ``priority`` parameter to the ``tls-creds-x509``
+object::
+
+  NO_MLDSA="-SIGN-ML-DSA-65:-SIGN-ML-DSA-44:-SIGN-ML-DSA-87"
+  NO_MLKEM="-GROUP-X25519-MLKEM768:-GROUP-SECP256R1-MLKEM768:-GROUP-SECP384R1-MLKEM1024"
+  # qemu-nbd --object tls-creds-x509,id=tls0,endpoint=server,dir=....,priority=@SYSTEM:$NO_MLDSA:$NO_MLKEM
+
+
 TLS Pre-Shared Keys (PSK)
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
-- 
2.51.1



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-03 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-03 13:36 [PULL 00/32] Next pr patches Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:36 ` [PULL 01/32] Implement -run-with exit-with-parent=on Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:36 ` [PULL 02/32] tests/qtest: Use exit-with-parent=on in qtest invocations Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:36 ` [PULL 03/32] crypto/hash: Have hashing functions take void * buffer argument Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:36 ` [PULL 04/32] io/channel: Have read/write " Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:36 ` [PULL 05/32] io: add a "blocking" field to QIOChannelSocket Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 06/32] io: flush zerocopy socket error queue on sendmsg failure due to ENOBUF Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 07/32] crypto: bump min gnutls to 3.7.5 Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 08/32] crypto: unconditionally enable gnutls XTS support Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 09/32] crypto: bump min libgcrypt to 1.9.4 Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 10/32] crypto: bump min nettle to 3.7.3 Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 11/32] crypto: drop in-tree XTS cipher mode impl Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 12/32] crypto: remove redundant parameter checking CA certs Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 13/32] crypto: add missing free of certs array Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 14/32] crypto: replace stat() with access() for credential checks Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 15/32] crypto: remove redundant access() checks before loading certs Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 16/32] crypto: move check for TLS creds 'dir' property Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 17/32] crypto: use g_autofree when loading x509 credentials Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 18/32] crypto: remove needless indirection via parent_obj field Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 19/32] crypto: move release of DH parameters into TLS creds parent Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 20/32] crypto: shorten the endpoint == server check in TLS creds Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 21/32] crypto: remove duplication loading x509 CA cert Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 22/32] crypto: reduce duplication in handling TLS priority strings Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 23/32] crypto: introduce method for reloading TLS creds Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 24/32] crypto: introduce a wrapper around gnutls credentials Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 25/32] crypto: fix lifecycle handling of gnutls credentials objects Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-04-03 18:25   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2026-04-17 13:31     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2026-04-23 13:45       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2026-04-23 19:07         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 26/32] crypto: make TLS credentials structs private Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 27/32] crypto: deprecate use of external dh-params.pem file Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 28/32] crypto: avoid loading the CA certs twice Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 29/32] crypto: avoid loading the identity " Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 30/32] crypto: expand logic to cope with multiple certificate identities Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` [PULL 31/32] crypto: support upto 5 parallel " Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-11-03 13:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-11-04 15:19 ` [PULL 00/32] Next pr patches Richard Henderson

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