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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Feng Jiang <jiangfeng@kylinos.cn>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
	pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu,
	alex@ghiti.fr, kees@kernel.org, andy@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ebiggers@kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	ajones@ventanamicro.com, conor.dooley@microchip.com,
	samuel.holland@sifive.com, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	nathan@kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strlen()
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 10:21:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260114102154.251082c6@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a58e97ad-a69e-498d-9382-2be4914569b0@kylinos.cn>

On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 15:04:58 +0800
Feng Jiang <jiangfeng@kylinos.cn> wrote:

> On 2026/1/14 14:14, Feng Jiang wrote:
> > On 2026/1/13 16:46, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 04:27:42PM +0800, Feng Jiang wrote:  
> >>> Introduce a benchmark to compare the architecture-optimized strlen()
> >>> implementation against the generic C version (__generic_strlen).
> >>>
> >>> The benchmark uses a table-driven approach to evaluate performance
> >>> across different string lengths (short, medium, and long). It employs
> >>> ktime_get() for timing and get_random_bytes() followed by null-byte
> >>> filtering to generate test data that prevents early termination.
> >>>
> >>> This helps in quantifying the performance gains of architecture-specific
> >>> optimizations on various platforms.  
...
> Preliminary results with this change look much more reasonable:
> 
>     ok 4 string_test_strlen
>     # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (short, len: 8, iters: 100000):
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   arch-optimized: 4767500 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   generic C:      5815800 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   speedup:        1.21x
>     # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (medium, len: 64, iters: 100000):
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   arch-optimized: 6573600 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   generic C:      16342500 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   speedup:        2.48x
>     # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (long, len: 2048, iters: 10000):
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   arch-optimized: 7931000 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   generic C:      35347300 ns

That is far too long.
In 35ms you are including a lot of timer interrupts.
You are also just testing the 'hot cache' case.
The kernel runs 'cold cache' a lot of the time - especially for instructions.

To time short loops (or even single passes) you need a data dependency
between the 'start time' and the code being tested (easy enough, just add
(time & non_compile_time_zero) to a parameter), and between the result of
the code and the 'end time' - somewhat harder (doable in x86 if you use
the pmc cycle counter).

	David


>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   speedup:        4.45x
>     ok 5 string_test_strlen_bench
> 
> I will adopt this pattern in v3, along with cache warm-up and preempt_disable(),
> to stay consistent with existing kernel benchmarks and ensure robust measurements.
> 


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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Feng Jiang <jiangfeng@kylinos.cn>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
	pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu,
	alex@ghiti.fr, kees@kernel.org, andy@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ebiggers@kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	ajones@ventanamicro.com, conor.dooley@microchip.com,
	samuel.holland@sifive.com, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	nathan@kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strlen()
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 10:21:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260114102154.251082c6@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a58e97ad-a69e-498d-9382-2be4914569b0@kylinos.cn>

On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 15:04:58 +0800
Feng Jiang <jiangfeng@kylinos.cn> wrote:

> On 2026/1/14 14:14, Feng Jiang wrote:
> > On 2026/1/13 16:46, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 04:27:42PM +0800, Feng Jiang wrote:  
> >>> Introduce a benchmark to compare the architecture-optimized strlen()
> >>> implementation against the generic C version (__generic_strlen).
> >>>
> >>> The benchmark uses a table-driven approach to evaluate performance
> >>> across different string lengths (short, medium, and long). It employs
> >>> ktime_get() for timing and get_random_bytes() followed by null-byte
> >>> filtering to generate test data that prevents early termination.
> >>>
> >>> This helps in quantifying the performance gains of architecture-specific
> >>> optimizations on various platforms.  
...
> Preliminary results with this change look much more reasonable:
> 
>     ok 4 string_test_strlen
>     # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (short, len: 8, iters: 100000):
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   arch-optimized: 4767500 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   generic C:      5815800 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   speedup:        1.21x
>     # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (medium, len: 64, iters: 100000):
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   arch-optimized: 6573600 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   generic C:      16342500 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   speedup:        2.48x
>     # string_test_strlen_bench: strlen performance (long, len: 2048, iters: 10000):
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   arch-optimized: 7931000 ns
>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   generic C:      35347300 ns

That is far too long.
In 35ms you are including a lot of timer interrupts.
You are also just testing the 'hot cache' case.
The kernel runs 'cold cache' a lot of the time - especially for instructions.

To time short loops (or even single passes) you need a data dependency
between the 'start time' and the code being tested (easy enough, just add
(time & non_compile_time_zero) to a parameter), and between the result of
the code and the 'end time' - somewhat harder (doable in x86 if you use
the pmc cycle counter).

	David


>     # string_test_strlen_bench:   speedup:        4.45x
>     ok 5 string_test_strlen_bench
> 
> I will adopt this pattern in v3, along with cache warm-up and preempt_disable(),
> to stay consistent with existing kernel benchmarks and ensure robust measurements.
> 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-13  8:27 [PATCH v2 00/14] riscv: optimize string functions and add kunit tests Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] lib/string: extract generic strlen() into __generic_strlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:33   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:33     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14  0:01   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-14  0:01     ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-14  1:41     ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  1:41       ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  7:07     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14  7:07       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14 10:10     ` David Laight
2026-01-14 10:10       ` David Laight
2026-01-15  6:50       ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-15  6:50         ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-15  6:55         ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-15  6:55           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] lib/string: extract generic strnlen() into __generic_strnlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] lib/string: extract generic strchr() into __generic_strchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] lib/string: extract generic strrchr() into __generic_strrchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] lib/string_kunit: add correctness test for strlen Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] lib/string_kunit: add correctness test for strnlen Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:41   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:41     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] lib/string_kunit: add correctness test for strrchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:46   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:46     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14  6:14     ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  6:14       ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  7:04       ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  7:04         ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  7:21         ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14  7:21           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14  8:05           ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14  8:05             ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-14 10:21         ` David Laight [this message]
2026-01-14 10:21           ` David Laight
2026-01-15  6:24           ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-15  6:24             ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-15 10:40             ` David Laight
2026-01-15 10:40               ` David Laight
2026-01-18 11:11   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-18 11:11     ` kernel test robot
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strnlen() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] lib/string_kunit: add performance benchmark for strrchr() Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] riscv: lib: add strnlen implementation Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:48   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:48     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] riscv: lib: add strchr implementation Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] riscv: lib: add strrchr implementation Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:27   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-13  8:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] riscv: optimize string functions and add kunit tests Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-13  8:52   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-15  4:43 ` Joel Stanley
2026-01-15  4:43   ` Joel Stanley
2026-01-19  9:24   ` Feng Jiang
2026-01-19  9:24     ` Feng Jiang

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