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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Chuck Lever" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	"Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	"Olga Kornievskaia" <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	"Dai Ngo" <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, "Tom Talpey" <tom@talpey.com>,
	"Carlos Maiolino" <cem@kernel.org>, "Chris Mason" <clm@fb.com>,
	"David Sterba" <dsterba@suse.com>,
	"Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] exportfs: Rename get_uuid() to get_disk_uuid()
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 14:11:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260114131130.GA6967@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjUKnD3-PHW5fOiTCeFVEvLkbVuviLAQc7tsKrN36Rm+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 11:12:17AM +0100, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> In the context of overlayfs index and "origin" xattr, this is exactly what is
> needed - to validate that the object's copy up source is reliable for
> the generation of a unique overlayfs object id.

And that's what is in sb->s_uuid.  And it better be persistent.

> TBH, I am not sure if the file handle domain is invariant to XFS admin
> change of uuid. How likely it is to get an identical file handles for two
> different objects, with XFS fs which have diverged by an LVM clone?
> I think it's quite likely.

Of course it is, unlike you explicitly change it using xfs_admin.  Note
that to even mount two clones/snapshots you need to mount with nouuid,
so it doesn't happen accidentally.

> Whether or not we should repurpose the existing get_uuid() I don't
> know - that depends whether pNFS expects the same UUID from an
> "xfs clone" as overlayfs would.

That method does not just return an uuid, but in fact a uniqueue
identifier of the file systems choice and the offset/len where to
look for it on disk, as that is how pnfs/block finds the matching
device.  It is a dangerous concept and should not spread further.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14  4:31 [PATCH 0/3] fs: Support btrfs cloned images and overlayfs André Almeida
2026-01-14  4:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] exportfs: Rename get_uuid() to get_disk_uuid() André Almeida
2026-01-14  6:10   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-14  6:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-14 10:12       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-14 13:11         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-01-14 16:38         ` André Almeida
2026-01-14 17:58           ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-14  4:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] btrfs: Implement get_disk_uuid() André Almeida
2026-01-14  4:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] ovl: Use real disk UUID for origin file handles André Almeida
2026-01-14  6:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-14 16:17     ` André Almeida
2026-01-15  6:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-15  6:51         ` Qu Wenruo
2026-01-15  7:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-15  8:09             ` Qu Wenruo
2026-01-15  8:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-15 15:42             ` André Almeida
2026-01-15 16:07               ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 18:55                 ` André Almeida
2026-01-16  9:36                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-16  9:55                   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-16 13:27                     ` André Almeida
2026-01-16 17:06                       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-19 16:56                         ` André Almeida
2026-01-20 15:12                           ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-22 20:07                             ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-23 13:24                               ` André Almeida
2026-01-23 20:08                                 ` André Almeida
2026-01-24 10:45                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-28 11:49                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-05 20:34                                       ` André Almeida
2026-02-06 13:12                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-16 14:59                                           ` André Almeida
2026-02-17 13:26                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15 16:08               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-14 17:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-15  6:36     ` Christoph Hellwig

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