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From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
	users@kernel.org,  ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 09:28:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260402-complex-ultraviolet-limpet-aea0bc@lemur> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260402130706.GA15407@macsyma-wired.lan>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 09:07:06AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 12:59:46AM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > # git-bug
> > 
> > The git-bug project aims to keep bug tracking integrated into the git
> > repository itself. It's not a new project -- it's been around for a while,
> > though its development has been advancing in spurts. The fundamentals are
> > sound and the design is robust. It's an active project with ongoing
> > development:
> 
> The documentation from git-bug is not great from the perspective of
> someone who is trying to understand the security properties of the
> system.  But after looking at the architecture documents, I *think*
> this is how it works.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps git-bug
> can improve their architecture docs?

Yes, I can totally relate to that sentiment, but "scant docs" is definitely
not a problem unique to this project. :)

> 1) A separate git repository is used for the bug store it's not the
> same git repo as the project where the project's sources are stored.
> (Your use of "the git repro" in your first paragraph made me made my
> eyebrows --- *surely* we wouldn't put the bug tracking information in
> linux.git, right?

Right, let me clarify this. I don't expect that we'd be keeping *any* kernel
bugs in torvalds/linux.git. Kernel development happens on a subsystem level
and especially bugs are rarely relevant across the tree, so, in my mind, bug
tracking would be done per-subsystem. They can either use their own fork of
the kernel for this, or they can use a dedicated repo just for bugs.

E.g.:

    pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mysubsystem/linux.git:refs/bugs/
    pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mysubsystem/bugs.git:refs/bugs/

You can definitely keep the bugs in your main subsystem tree, as they are in
their own ref and don't impact the heads in any way.

> 2) The primary way that git-bug seems to be focused is that "bridges"
> are used to sync status between some other bug tracker (such as
> github's issue tracker) and the git bug.

That part we don't really care about, though if subsystems like, they can
bridge to a GH/GL tracker. The primary purpose of git-bug, to me, is to keep
bug data a) transparent, b) capable of fully replicating so it doesn't get
gated at a single-point-of-failure.

> 3) You *can* create new bugs via the git-bug CLI, but this
> seems... weird, since only a person who has write access to a git repo
> can create a bug.

That's actually the whole point. Only subsystem maintainers would be able to
create a bug. To *report* a bug, the reporter would use an ingestion frontend
as I described -- bugs.kernel.org or similar that would pre-analyze the bug,
create a bug report and *then* send the report to maintainers. A bug report
doesn't automatically become a tracked bug in git-bug unless the maintainer
then imports that report into their bug-tracker.

So, yes, only the person who has write access to the repo can create a bug and
that's by design. Everyone else participates via discussions that are synced
to the bug entry whenever the maintainer runs "update" on the bug.

The git-bug entry is simply for lifecycle/tracking/triage purposes.

> Sure, anyone can fork the git repo, and create a
> bug in their local repo, but then in order to publish it, either (a)
> you have to have credentials so you can publish to some publically
> available bug tracker via a bridge, or (b) you can convince someone to
> pull from your repo to get your new bug --- but that is going to have
> to be a trusted source, because...
> 
> 4) A git pull from some other bug tracking repo would completely
> bypass any kind of anti-SPAM or quality checking.

Not even part of the picture. The only pushing/pulling that happens is
between co-maintainers to their canonical repo and never from any other
source.

> This is much like
> how a maintainer might trust doing a git pull from a submaintainer,
> but the submaintainer has to be trusted, because doing code review
> before doing a pull is... possible, but it requires a human being to
> sanity check a pull and make look for red flags, but in general you
> only pull from trusted repositories.  (Which is why I hate github PR's
> as being a security disaster in waiting for Jia Tan style attacks, but
> that's for another rant.)

Hopefully that clarifies this concern.

> 5) If there are any data format attacks where a maliciously crafted
> git-bug object can trigger some kind of security failure (SQL
> injection, shell quoting attacks, ... the mind boggles), which can be
> introduced either via a malicious issue that translates through a
> bridge, or via a "git pull" from a trusted repository, this could be
> used to attack either trusted infrastructure where the webui is
> hosted, or a developer's development machine behind their firewall.

This, too.

> This is making me super nervous.
> 
> What am I missing?  How can these concerns be mitigated?

Regards,
-- 
KR

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-10  4:48 kernel.org tooling update Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-10  8:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-12-10 13:30 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-12-11  3:04   ` Theodore Tso
2025-12-12 23:48   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-12-12 23:54     ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-16 16:21 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-16 20:33   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-12-17  0:47     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-12-18 13:37       ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-18 14:09         ` Mario Limonciello
2026-01-23  9:19 ` Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-23  9:29   ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 11:47     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 11:58       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 12:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 12:29           ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 13:57         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 16:24     ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 16:33       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 16:42         ` Joe Perches
2026-01-23 17:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-23 17:23         ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 18:23           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 21:12             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 16:23               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 17:32                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 21:01                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:23                   ` James Bottomley
2026-01-27  8:39                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-27 21:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-04 10:49                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 10:14                           ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 18:07                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 18:23                               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:33                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-26 23:06                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 21:38             ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 22:55             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 16:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 17:02         ` Paul Moore
2026-03-08  7:21     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-03-08 10:24       ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 14:02         ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 18:42 ` kernel.org tooling update Randy Dunlap
2026-02-26  8:44 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-26 14:40   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2026-02-26 17:04   ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-27 11:07     ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-27 15:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` Mark Brown
2026-02-27 15:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Sven Peter
2026-02-27 15:35       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-27 16:22           ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:07               ` James Bottomley
2026-02-28 13:41             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-28 15:17               ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 17:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-28 18:29                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:26                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-28 20:28                       ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:56                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-01 15:23                           ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 15:35                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 15:42                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:13                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 16:27                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:01                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-07 16:19                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:15                               ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:49                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-02  8:55                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-01 17:33                               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-02 20:28                                 ` [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  5:39                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 12:44                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 13:17                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-03 16:35                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:22                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-03 19:09                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03  6:26                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-03  6:48                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2026-03-03  9:04                                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 12:45                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  8:11                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03  9:31                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2026-03-03 12:47                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 12:58                                           ` James Bottomley
2026-03-03 13:08                                             ` Jürgen Groß
2026-03-03  8:09                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 22:44                                   ` Helge Deller
2026-03-03 22:47                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:01                             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:16                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:25                                 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:33                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 10:37                 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-06 10:44                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-15 14:58                     ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 11:28                       ` Greg KH
2026-03-16 21:56                         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17  7:51                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-02  4:59   ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 13:07     ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 13:28       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2026-04-02 14:08         ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 14:21           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-02 13:51       ` James Bottomley
2026-04-02 13:42     ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-04-02 14:04       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:15         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-04-02 15:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-04-02 16:04         ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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