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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	torvalds@linuxfoundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	linux@leemhuis.info, richard@nod.at, users@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 11:35:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aacNzgFsnpGvG4I0@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260303081748.3d48c3f6@gandalf.local.home>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 08:17:48AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 08:39:36 +0300
>Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 03:28:28PM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> >   [   11.206749]  dump_stack_lvl+0x5d/0x80 (lib/dump_stack.c:94)
>>
>> This is super useful, thanks.
>>
>> Can the 0x prefix be dropped as well?
>
>And print in decimal? Without the 0x, it could be ambiguous that it's hex.
>
>> It is shorter to print in decimal up to 1 million.
>>
>> () are just character noise, I'd drop them
>
>I actually prefer them ;-)
>
>Anyway, this looks more like a feature that is for us kernel developers
>debugging our own kernels than something that should be added to a distro.
>decode_stacktrace.pl can be used for those because distro kernels always
>supply debug data that can be downloaded at any time.

You know, that's what I thought when I was writing that little "bug bot" you
saw yesterday: if I just construct the right prompts for each distro, the LLM
can go ahead and fetch debug symbols and translate those call traces for us.
What I've learned (and I might be mistaken, so corrections welcome!) is:

  - Debian is pretty good at it, but they don't store debug symbols for the
    security archive. As an example, my build machine is currently running
6.17.13+deb14-amd64, and for the life of me I can't dig up the debug symbols
even manually.

  - Fedora only provides the latest kernel. We can fish the older ones from
    Koji, but it's quite hard nailing down the correct ones.

  - Arch simply doesn't provide debug symbols.

  - Tumbleweed provides only 30 days of archives.

  - Gentoo (binary packages) doesn't provide them at all (though is planning to).

  - Ubuntu provides them for the lifetime of the release, but their forums are
    full of reports of missing symbols and server issues.

  - Rocky is similar to ubuntu
    (https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/rocky-9-4-still-missing-kernel-debuginfo-common/15169
for example).

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-10  4:48 kernel.org tooling update Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-10  8:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-12-10 13:30 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-12-11  3:04   ` Theodore Tso
2025-12-12 23:48   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-12-12 23:54     ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-16 16:21 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-16 20:33   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-12-17  0:47     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-12-18 13:37       ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-18 14:09         ` Mario Limonciello
2026-01-23  9:19 ` Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-23  9:29   ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 11:47     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 11:58       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 12:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 12:29           ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 13:57         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 16:24     ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 16:33       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 16:42         ` Joe Perches
2026-01-23 17:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-23 17:23         ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 18:23           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 21:12             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 16:23               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 17:32                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 21:01                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:23                   ` James Bottomley
2026-01-27  8:39                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-27 21:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-04 10:49                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 10:14                           ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 18:07                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 18:23                               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:33                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-26 23:06                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 21:38             ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 22:55             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 16:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 17:02         ` Paul Moore
2026-03-08  7:21     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-03-08 10:24       ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 14:02         ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 18:42 ` kernel.org tooling update Randy Dunlap
2026-02-26  8:44 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-26 14:40   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2026-02-26 17:04   ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-27 11:07     ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-27 15:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` Mark Brown
2026-02-27 15:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Sven Peter
2026-02-27 15:35       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-27 16:22           ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:07               ` James Bottomley
2026-02-28 13:41             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-28 15:17               ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 17:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-28 18:29                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:26                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-28 20:28                       ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:56                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-01 15:23                           ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 15:35                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 15:42                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:13                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 16:27                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:01                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-07 16:19                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:15                               ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:49                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-02  8:55                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-01 17:33                               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-02 20:28                                 ` [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  5:39                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 12:44                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 13:17                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-03 16:35                                       ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-03-06 15:22                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-03 19:09                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03  6:26                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-03  6:48                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2026-03-03  9:04                                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 12:45                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  8:11                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03  9:31                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2026-03-03 12:47                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 12:58                                           ` James Bottomley
2026-03-03 13:08                                             ` Jürgen Groß
2026-03-03  8:09                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 22:44                                   ` Helge Deller
2026-03-03 22:47                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:01                             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:16                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:25                                 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:33                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 10:37                 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-06 10:44                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-15 14:58                     ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 11:28                       ` Greg KH
2026-03-16 21:56                         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17  7:51                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-02  4:59   ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 13:07     ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 13:28       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:08         ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 14:21           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-02 13:51       ` James Bottomley
2026-04-02 13:42     ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-04-02 14:04       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:15         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-04-02 15:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-04-02 16:04         ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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