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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: luizcap@redhat.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	david@kernel.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org,
	ziy@nvidia.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] mm: introduce pgtable_has_pmd_leaves()
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:19:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260410081938.51302-1-lance.yang@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b65d560458b2488f715b5afc1603d786e786ccf7.1775679721.git.luizcap@redhat.com>


On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 04:22:57PM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>Currently, we have two helpers that check for PMD-sized pages but have
>different names and slightly different semantics:
>
>- has_transparent_hugepage(): the name suggests it checks if THP is
>  enabled, but when CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=y and the architecture
>  implements this helper, it actually checks if the CPU supports
>  PMD-sized pages
>
>- thp_disabled_by_hw(): the name suggests it checks if THP is disabled
>  by the hardware, but it just returns a cached value acquired with
>  has_transparent_hugepage(). This helper is used in fast paths
>
>This commit introduces a new helper called pgtable_has_pmd_leaves()
>which is intended to replace both has_transparent_hugepage() and
>thp_disabled_by_hw(). pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() has very clear semantics:
>it returns true if the CPU supports PMD-sized pages and false otherwise.
>It always returns a cached value, so it can be used in fast paths.
>
>The new helper requires an initialization step which is performed by
>init_arch_has_pmd_leaves(). We call init_arch_has_pmd_leaves() early
>during boot in start_kernel() right after parse_early_param() but before
>parse_args(). This allows early_param() handlers to change CPU flags if
>needed (eg. parse_memopt() in x86-32) while also allowing users to use
>the API from __setup() handlers.
>
>The next commits will convert users of both has_transparent_hugepage()
>and thp_disabled_by_hw() to pgtable_has_pmd_leaves().
>
>Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <luizcap@redhat.com>
>---
> include/linux/pgtable.h | 15 +++++++++++++++
> init/main.c             |  1 +
> mm/memory.c             |  8 ++++++++
> 3 files changed, 24 insertions(+)
>
>diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>index a50df42a893f..c4c5282f795c 100644
>--- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
>+++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>@@ -2192,6 +2192,21 @@ static inline const char *pgtable_level_to_str(enum pgtable_level level)
> 	}
> }
> 
>+#ifdef CONFIG_MMU
>+extern bool __arch_has_pmd_leaves;
>+static inline bool pgtable_has_pmd_leaves(void)
>+{
>+	return __arch_has_pmd_leaves;
>+}
>+void __init init_arch_has_pmd_leaves(void);
>+#else
>+static inline bool pgtable_has_pmd_leaves(void)
>+{
>+	return false;
>+}
>+static inline void __init init_arch_has_pmd_leaves(void) { }
>+#endif
>+
> #endif /* !__ASSEMBLY__ */
> 
> #if !defined(MAX_POSSIBLE_PHYSMEM_BITS) && !defined(CONFIG_64BIT)
>diff --git a/init/main.c b/init/main.c
>index 1cb395dd94e4..07f2ddbf9677 100644
>--- a/init/main.c
>+++ b/init/main.c
>@@ -1044,6 +1044,7 @@ void start_kernel(void)
> 	print_kernel_cmdline(saved_command_line);
> 	/* parameters may set static keys */
> 	parse_early_param();
>+	init_arch_has_pmd_leaves();

One more thought here: I don't see why we need boot-time caching.

has_transparent_hugepage() does *not* look expensive on the common
archs. On x86, it is just a CPU feature check. MIPS is different, yes,
only the first call there is more involved ...

But if we *really* want caching, couldn't we just do it lazily instead
of adding another early boot init step?

Something like:

bool pgtable_has_pmd_leaves(void)
{
	static int __arch_has_pmd_leaves = -1;

	if (READ_ONCE(__arch_has_pmd_leaves) < 0)
		WRITE_ONCE(__arch_has_pmd_leaves, has_transparent_hugepage());

	return READ_ONCE(__arch_has_pmd_leaves);
}

That would avoid depending on parse_early_param() / parse_args()
ordering, and it seems much simpler too :)

The boot-time init step looks a bit shaky to me ...

Thanks,
Lance


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-10  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-08 20:22 [PATCH v3 00/10] mm: thp: always enable mTHP support Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-08 20:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] docs: tmpfs: remove implementation detail reference Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:11   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-10 16:00   ` Lance Yang
2026-04-08 20:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] mm: introduce pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 12:26   ` Lance Yang
2026-04-09 18:22     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-10  8:19   ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-04-13 15:24     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-13 15:45       ` Lance Yang
2026-04-17  9:57     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 12:57       ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-20  6:55       ` Lance Yang
2026-04-08 20:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] drivers: dax: use pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-08 20:22 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] drivers: nvdimm: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:21   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 18:51     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] mm: debug_vm_pgtable: " Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:25   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-10 16:09   ` Lance Yang
2026-04-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm: shmem: drop has_transparent_hugepage() usage Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:26   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-10 15:59   ` Lance Yang
2026-04-11  4:00     ` Lance Yang
2026-04-11  6:56   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] treewide: rename has_transparent_hugepage() to arch_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:41   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 19:43     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-13 15:32       ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-13 15:34         ` Zi Yan
2026-04-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] mm: replace thp_disabled_by_hw() with pgtable_has_pmd_leaves() Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:43   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-11  7:01   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-12 14:44   ` Lance Yang
2026-04-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] mm: thp: always enable mTHP support Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:55   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 20:07     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 20:10       ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 21:19         ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-11  7:22   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-13 15:39     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] mm: thp: x86: cleanup PSE feature bit usage Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 15:57   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-09 20:10     ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-09 21:24       ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09  8:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] mm: thp: always enable mTHP support Lance Yang
2026-04-09  8:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 18:18     ` Luiz Capitulino
2026-04-09 12:35   ` Lance Yang

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