From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/19] VFS: use wait_var_event for waiting in d_alloc_parallel()
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 02:11:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260501011132.GA3518998@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <177759308866.1474915.9708613530229799376@noble.neil.brown.name>
On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 09:51:28AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> I saw this comment the first time I read this email, but I didn't
> process it properly. That code is wrong.
One in mainline isn't - d_wait comes from target, as it ought to.
> It only makes sense to
> __d_wake_in_lookup_waiters() a dentry that we know was in-lookup, and in
> d_move, that is target.
> This can only happen (I think) in nfs where nfs_lookup() skips the lookup
> for LOOKUP_RENAME_TARGET and leaves the dentry in-lookup. Other threads
> looking up that name will then block.
> After the rename completes that in-lookup dentry will now be unhashed
> but we need to wake it up so other threads can continue (and repeat the
> lookup).
>
> So we need
>
> __d_wake_in_lookup_waiters(target);
>
> in d_move. target, not dentry.
Yep.
> Thanks for flagging this,
>
> Also my testing has hit a problem with some sort of deadlock in the nfs
> server (so accessing and XFS filesystem). They are tring to unlink a
> file and are waiting in d_alloc_parallel() under reconnect_path.
> This is running generic/467.
>
> So better hold off this patchset until I have that understood.
Let's deal with d_alloc_parallel() first; it doesn't have to be tied
into the rest of patchset. Does the variant I've posted + s/dentry/target/ in that
call of __d_wake_in_lookup_waiters() trigger any problems in your testing?
If it doesn't, let's get that part out of the way - it makes sense on its own
and getting it into -next (I'm sitting on a bunch of fs/dcache.c patches, and
it would fit there nicely) would be a good idea.
FWIW, your "noblock" variant is a misnomer - it *is* a trylock analogue of
d_alloc_parallel(), all right, but it might very well block; on allocations,
if nothing else, and there's a chance of having that dput(dentry) in "wouldblock"
case coming right after the sucker ceased to be in-lookup and dropping the sole
remaining reference. Which may block on real IO, final dput() being what it is...
And I really dislike the "drop and regain a caller-held lock" games - we'd been
there many times and it had ended up with race galore again and again; see
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250623213747.GJ1880847@ZenIV/ for one recent
example...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-01 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 4:01 [PATCH v3 00/19] Prepare to lift lookup out of exclusive lock for directory ops NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] VFS: fix various typos in documentation for start_creating start_removing etc NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] VFS: enhance d_splice_alias() to handle in-lookup dentries NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] VFS: allow d_alloc_name() to be used with ->d_hash NeilBrown
2026-04-28 2:10 ` Al Viro
2026-04-29 2:44 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] VFS: use wait_var_event for waiting in d_alloc_parallel() NeilBrown
2026-04-28 3:37 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:18 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 14:22 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 23:26 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-29 5:26 ` Al Viro
2026-04-29 17:07 ` Al Viro
2026-04-29 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-30 23:51 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 1:11 ` Al Viro [this message]
2026-05-01 1:39 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 1:45 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 3:37 ` Al Viro
2026-05-01 10:46 ` NeilBrown
2026-05-01 1:20 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] VFS: introduce d_alloc_noblock() NeilBrown
2026-04-28 2:22 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:24 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] VFS: add d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] VFS: Add LOOKUP_SHARED flag NeilBrown
2026-04-27 7:43 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 8:47 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 9:05 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 23:51 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] VFS/xfs/ntfs: drop parent lock across d_alloc_parallel() in d_add_ci() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 7:49 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 8:48 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] ovl: stop using lookup_one() in iterate_shared() handling NeilBrown
2026-04-27 10:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-28 0:24 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] VFS/ovl: add d_alloc_noblock_return() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 9:40 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-28 0:34 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 4:35 ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:44 ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] efivarfs: use d_alloc_name() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] shmem: use d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] nfs: remove d_drop()/d_alloc_parallel() from nfs_atomic_open() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] nfs: use d_splice_alias() in nfs_link() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] nfs: don't d_drop() before d_splice_alias() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] nfs: don't d_drop() before d_splice_alias() in atomic_create NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] nfs: Use d_alloc_noblock() in nfs_prime_dcache() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] nfs: use d_alloc_noblock() in silly-rename NeilBrown
2026-04-27 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] nfs: use d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27 8:42 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Prepare to lift lookup out of exclusive lock for directory ops syzbot ci
2026-04-28 23:16 ` NeilBrown
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20260501011132.GA3518998@ZenIV \
--to=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
--cc=amir73il@gmail.com \
--cc=anna@kernel.org \
--cc=ardb@kernel.org \
--cc=brauner@kernel.org \
--cc=jack@suse.cz \
--cc=jk@ozlabs.org \
--cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-efi@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=miklos@szeredi.hu \
--cc=neil@brown.name \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=trondmy@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.