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From: Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Matt Evans" <mattev@meta.com>, "Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Mahmoud Adam" <mngyadam@amazon.de>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	"Pranjal Shrivastava" <praan@google.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Vivek Kasireddy" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, alex@shazbot.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 08:50:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260505085058.74c34290@shazbot.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260505104911.GB11063@unreal>

On Tue, 5 May 2026 13:49:11 +0300
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Mon, May 04, 2026 at 04:40:41AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 04:19:15PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> >   
> > > Exporting dma-bufs from vfio-pci is a feature, but mmap of MMIO BARs is
> > > a legacy requirement.  That legacy requirement now depends on
> > > PCI_P2PDMA, which depends on 64BIT and ZONE_DEVICE.  
> > 
> > That should be split up now, Leon missed it when he added the new
> > APIs that didn't require ZONE_DEVICE..  
> 
> Sorry, what did I miss here?  
> VFIO_DMABUF is an optional feature and is enabled only when P2P support is  
> available. It does not affect legacy systems where P2P cannot be enabled.

If we look at the long term view of moving exclusively to cdev/iommufd,
where VFIO_DMABUF becomes the mechanism for implementing P2P DMA
mappings, VFIO_DMABUF may be optional, but it's highly desirable for
legacy compatibility.  There's an argument though that providing P2P
compatibility on platforms that support PCI_P2PDMA is probably
sufficient.

However, in providing mmap of dmabufs as a feature, this series is
wiring all mmaps through dmabufs and therefore that dependency becomes
fundamental to the use of vfio-pci.  Thus the discussion whether the
noted config requirements could be lifted.  Thanks,

Alex

PS - Please also weigh in on the dmabuf underflow[1]

[1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260501131236.278ac431@shazbot.org/

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-05 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-16 13:17 [PATCH 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfio/pci: Fix vfio_pci_dma_buf_cleanup() double-put Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-01 19:12   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-06 13:53     ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 15:29       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-06 15:55         ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 16:14           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-06 16:42             ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to look up PFNs for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:15   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07 15:48     ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 3/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to create a DMABUF for a BAR-map VMA Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-30 16:47     ` Matt Evans
2026-04-30 17:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 18:13         ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 19:03           ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 4/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-05-01 22:19   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-04  7:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 10:49       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-05 14:50         ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2026-05-05 14:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06  5:35           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-14 17:52             ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 5/9] vfio/pci: Provide a user-facing name for BAR mappings Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-01 22:44   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-07 16:56     ` Matt Evans
2026-05-07 17:17       ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 6/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation Matt Evans
2026-05-01 23:19   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-05 10:58     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 7/9] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a VFIO DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07 16:09     ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 9/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() attributes to DMABUF feature Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-26 10:52     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-04-27 14:36       ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-11 15:30         ` Matt Evans
2026-05-11 17:51           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-11 20:09           ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-12 17:51             ` Matt Evans
2026-05-13 18:27               ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-14 13:55                 ` Matt Evans

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