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From: Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
To: Matt Evans <mattev@meta.com>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Mahmoud Adam" <mngyadam@amazon.de>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	"Pranjal Shrivastava" <praan@google.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Vivek Kasireddy" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, alex@shazbot.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() attributes to DMABUF feature
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 14:09:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260511140957.25eb5d9d@shazbot.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25a4fc45-1b4d-426b-954a-60bf21e9040f@meta.com>

On Mon, 11 May 2026 16:30:39 +0100
Matt Evans <mattev@meta.com> wrote:

> Hi Alex, Leon,
> 
> On 27/04/2026 15:36, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 13:52:15 +0300
> > Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 03:31:53PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:  
> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 06:17:52AM -0700, Matt Evans wrote:  
> >>>> A new field is reserved in vfio_device_feature_dma_buf.flags to
> >>>> request CPU-facing memory type attributes for mmap()s of the buffer.
> >>>> Add a flag VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE_DMA_BUF_ATTR_WC, which results in WC
> >>>> PTEs for the DMABUF's BAR region.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Matt Evans <mattev@meta.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>   drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_dmabuf.c | 15 +++++++++++++--
> >>>>   drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_priv.h   |  1 +
> >>>>   include/uapi/linux/vfio.h          | 12 +++++++++---
> >>>>   3 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)  
> >>>
> >>> Nice and simple
> >>>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> >>>      
> >>>> @@ -1549,8 +1551,12 @@ struct vfio_region_dma_range {
> >>>>   struct vfio_device_feature_dma_buf {
> >>>>   	__u32	region_index;
> >>>>   	__u32	open_flags;
> >>>> -	__u32   flags;
> >>>> -	__u32   nr_ranges;
> >>>> +	__u32	flags;
> >>>> +	/* Flags sub-field reserved for attribute enum */
> >>>> +#define VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE_DMA_BUF_ATTR_MASK		(0xfU << 28)
> >>>> +#define VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE_DMA_BUF_ATTR_UC		(0 << 28)
> >>>> +#define VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE_DMA_BUF_ATTR_WC		(1 << 28)
> >>>> +	__u32	nr_ranges;  
> >>
> >> Alex,
> >>
> >> The TPH proposal extends the flags field in a similar way, but I suggested
> >> a different approach to conserve bits. At the moment, we spend three bits
> >> on a single feature, which feels wasteful.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260409120415.GF86584@unreal/  
> > 
> > I already proposed a very different interface for TPH that decouples
> > the dma-buf creation from setting the TPH values:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260423132016.4a25e074@shazbot.org/
> > 
> > This is overall less intrusive than the TPH change proposed, but it
> > could still make sense to align this as an operation on the dma-buf,
> > that can be probed as a separate feature.  Thanks,  
> 
> I'll add a VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE_DMA_BUF_ATTRS in a v2 instead to get in 
> line with the TPH work, no worries.
> 
> For the benefit of future hackers, how would you describe the criteria 
> for adding flags to this existing field?  What hypothetical feature 
> characteristics would be appropriate?  (Maybe it's that these attrs & 
> TPH add scalar fields in several bits rather than a simple boolean.) 
> Two of us have independently added something that's turned out to be 
> inapproriate so some guidance would be good.

I think the question of how we actually expand an arbitrary grab bag of
"ATTRS" is the central question in whether we should implement the
interface.  If we follow the direction I suggested for TPH, maybe this
is just a VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE_DMA_BUF_WC, where it supports only PROBE
and SET, with SET taking only the dma-buf fd to implement the one-way
promotion from UC -> WC.

If we support a generic SET ATTRS feature, we really need to map out how
flag bits are indicated as supported and how a user untangles failures
from trying to set various attributes.  If we end up with a feature
indicating each ATTR is available, we might as well have just
implemented a feature for each attribute.  Thanks,

Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-11 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-16 13:17 [PATCH 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfio/pci: Fix vfio_pci_dma_buf_cleanup() double-put Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-01 19:12   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-06 13:53     ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 15:29       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-06 15:55         ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 16:14           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-06 16:42             ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to look up PFNs for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:15   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07 15:48     ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 3/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to create a DMABUF for a BAR-map VMA Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-30 16:47     ` Matt Evans
2026-04-30 17:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 18:13         ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 19:03           ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 4/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-05-01 22:19   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-04  7:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 10:49       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-05 14:50         ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-05 14:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06  5:35           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-14 17:52             ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 5/9] vfio/pci: Provide a user-facing name for BAR mappings Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-01 22:44   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-07 16:56     ` Matt Evans
2026-05-07 17:17       ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 6/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation Matt Evans
2026-05-01 23:19   ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-05 10:58     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 7/9] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a VFIO DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07 16:09     ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 9/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() attributes to DMABUF feature Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-26 10:52     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-04-27 14:36       ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-11 15:30         ` Matt Evans
2026-05-11 17:51           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-11 20:09           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2026-05-12 17:51             ` Matt Evans
2026-05-13 18:27               ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-14 13:55                 ` Matt Evans

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