From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Yuri Andriaccio <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>,
Yuri Andriaccio <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, mkoutny@suse.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 17:05:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260507150526.GL3126523@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afypzfyH0M7Rcge2@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>
On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 05:03:41PM +0200, Juri Lelli wrote:
> On 07/05/26 12:53, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 09:56:58AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > > - However, the cpu controller is a threaded controller which means that it
> > > can have threaded sub-hierarchy where the no-internal-process rule doesn't
> > > apply. This was created explicitly for cpu controller. The proposed change
> > > blocks it effectively forcing cpu controller into regular domain
> > > controller behavior subject to no-internal-process rule. Note these are
> > > enforced at controller granularity and this means that users who use the
> > > threaded mode will be forced to pick between the two.
> >
> > Right... this then means we need two controls, one to do hierarchical
> > bandwidth distribution, and one to assign bandwidth to the internal
> > group -- which is then subject to its own bandwidth distribution
> > constraint.
> >
> > This might be a little confusing, but there is no way around that
> > AFAICT.
>
> Just to check if I'm following, you are thinking something like below?
>
> groupA/
> cpu.rt.max = "50 50 100" <- 0.5 from root
> cpu.rt.internal = "20 20 100" <- 0.2 from groupA for threads at this
> level
> + threadA <
> + threadB <
> +- group1/
> cpu.rt.max = "30 30 100" <- 0.3 from groupA
> + threadC
>
> And we still keep it flat, so 2 dl-entities (per CPU), one handles
> threads at groupA level and the other threads inside group1?
Exactly!
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[not found] <20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-14-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:04 ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/29] sched/rt: Implement dl-server operations for rt-cgroups Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-15-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:16 ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/29] sched/rt: Update task event callbacks for HCBS scheduling Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-16-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/29] sched/rt: Update rt-cgroup schedulability checks Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-19-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:59 ` [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-06 19:58 ` luca abeni
2026-05-07 7:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 13:30 ` luca abeni
2026-05-07 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-20-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH v5 19/29] sched/rt: Remove support for cgroups-v1 Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:35 ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-13 12:15 ` Yuri Andriaccio
2026-05-13 14:37 ` Juri Lelli
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-21-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:15 ` [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 19:56 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 10:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:03 ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-07 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-05-07 16:39 ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 9:29 ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-11 17:52 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 16:44 ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 9:40 ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:15 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-11 17:37 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 14:30 ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:28 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-12 17:38 ` Yuri Andriaccio
2026-05-12 18:19 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-12 18:20 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-13 12:08 ` Yuri Andriaccio
2026-05-13 19:10 ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-14 7:25 ` luca abeni
2026-05-14 22:20 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-23-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:20 ` [RFC PATCH v5 22/29] sched/rt: Add rt-cgroup migration functions Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 15:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
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