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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
Cc: "Pavel Hrdina" <phrdina@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org, jugraham@redhat.com,
	shan.gavin@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv1] virtio: Inherit max bounce buffer size from bus parent if possible
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 08:27:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260610082637-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb0f0da1-11dd-4437-94fd-a65af55851e1@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 10:19:31PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 6/10/26 10:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 08:55:10PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> > > On 6/10/26 7:54 PM, Pavel Hrdina wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > 
> > > > You did not answer the question that Daniel was asking, how will user
> > > > know that max-bounce-buffer-size should be used if it's necessary to fix
> > > > guest system hangs and how will user know what magic value should be set?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Sorry that I missed to answer Daniel's questions. For this specific case,
> > > user need to enlarge the bounce buffer size when seeing the following error
> > > message. We can add an explicit one in address_space_map() if the existing
> > > error message isn't obvious.
> > > 
> > >    qemu-system-aarch64: virtio: bogus descriptor or out of resources
> > > 
> > >    void *address_space_map(AddressSpace *as,
> > >                          hwaddr addr,
> > >                          hwaddr *plen,
> > >                          bool is_write,
> > >                          MemTxAttrs attrs)
> > >    {
> > >        if (!memory_access_is_direct(mr, is_write, attrs)) {
> > >            if (l == 0) {
> > >                error_report("Running out of bounce buffer size , enlarge it with max-bounce-buffer-size");
> > >                *plen = 0;
> > >                return NULL;
> > >            }
> > >        }
> > > 
> > > As to the value user should take for max-bounce-buffer-size, it is really case by case
> > > and decided by user. User needs to try 4096, 8192, ..., 0xFFFFFFFF to figure out the
> > > smallest value works for them. The worst case is to set 0xFFFFFFFF.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > This is not at all reasonable. All kind of fixes are possible but
> > fundamentally, bounce buffering data path is by itself already a
> > bad idea.
> > 
> > I have no idea what does bounce buffering device ram accomplish.
> > 
> > In the end, qemu still simply reads the memory from/to the buffer.
> > 
> > My suggestion is to first of all look for ways to mark the
> > memory as direct.
> > 
> 
> As I explained to Peter Xu in another reply, we can't simply mark the (RAM
> DEVICE) memory region is directly accessible. The memory region is initialized
> by memory_region_init_ram_device_ptr() in hw/vfio/region.c::vfio_region_mmap().
> 
> The  accesses to the memory region is handled by 'ram_device_mem_ops' where
> {ldn, stn}_he_p() are used in its read/write handler. They're different
> from memcpy() since the data endianness is well handled in {ldn, stn}_he_p().
> 
> Thanks,
> Gavin
> 

What is endianness set to, for this region?



  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-10 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-08  0:18 [PATCH RFCv1] virtio: Inherit max bounce buffer size from bus parent if possible Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  8:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-08 11:11   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08 11:38     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-09  2:08       ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-09 16:25         ` Peter Xu
2026-06-10  0:32           ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-10  9:54     ` Pavel Hrdina
2026-06-10 10:55       ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-10 12:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-10 12:19           ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-10 12:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-06-10 13:00               ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-10 13:54                 ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-10 14:06                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-10 15:36                     ` Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:11                       ` Peter Maydell
2026-06-10 16:19                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-10 16:18                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-10 12:23         ` Pavel Hrdina
2026-06-10 14:04           ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-10 14:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-10  9:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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