* neigh: poor scalability of forced GC when neighbour count exceeds gc_thresh3
@ 2026-06-18 8:17 Vimal Agrawal
2026-06-25 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next] net: neigh: avoid calling neigh_forced_gc on every alloc when table is full Vimal Agrawal
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From: Vimal Agrawal @ 2026-06-18 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netdev; +Cc: David Ahern, Jakub Kicinski, Vimal Agrawal
While investigating a soft lockup observed during neighbour table
growth, I noticed that neighbour allocation latency increases
significantly once the number of entries exceeds gc_thresh3.
Test setup:
net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh1 = 16384
net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh2 = 32768
net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh3 = 32768
I created approximately 50,000 reachable neighbour entries and
measured time spent in __neigh_create(). Once the table size exceeds
gc_thresh3, neighbour creation latency increases dramatically (in my
testing, individual allocations can take >16 ms). Profiling shows that
most of the time is spent waiting on tbl->lock, typically held by
neigh_forced_gc().
The relevant path is:
static int neigh_forced_gc(struct neigh_table *tbl)
{
...
write_lock_bh(&tbl->lock);
list_for_each_entry_safe(n, tmp, &tbl->gc_list, gc_list) {
if (refcount_read(&n->refcnt) == 1) {
...
In my workload, most entries are active/reachable and have refcnt > 1,
so the GC walk scans a large portion of the neighbour table without
reclaiming entries. As a result, the lock can be held for a long
period while traversing the GC list.
Another observation is that once gc_thresh3 is exceeded, every new
neighbour allocation attempts a forced GC:
entries = atomic_inc_return(&tbl->gc_entries) - 1;
if (entries >= gc_thresh3 ||
(entries >= READ_ONCE(tbl->gc_thresh2) &&
time_after(now, READ_ONCE(tbl->last_flush) + 5 * HZ))) {
if (!neigh_forced_gc(tbl) && entries >= gc_thresh3) {
...
Unlike the gc_thresh2 case, there is no rate limiting once the table
is already above gc_thresh3. Under sustained neighbour creation this
results in repeated full GC scans, further increasing contention on
tbl->lock.
Has this scalability issue been discussed previously, or is there a
reason why forced GC above gc_thresh3 is intentionally not
rate-limited?
I would be interested in feedback before working on a patch.
Thanks,
Vimal Agrawal
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* [PATCH net-next] net: neigh: avoid calling neigh_forced_gc on every alloc when table is full
2026-06-18 8:17 neigh: poor scalability of forced GC when neighbour count exceeds gc_thresh3 Vimal Agrawal
@ 2026-06-25 10:20 ` Vimal Agrawal
2026-06-25 15:42 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-25 21:45 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
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From: Vimal Agrawal @ 2026-06-25 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netdev; +Cc: kuniyu, edumazet, vimal.agrawal, avimalin
Once the neighbour table exceeds gc_thresh3, neigh_forced_gc() is called
on every allocation attempt with no rate limiting. In workloads with mostly
active/reachable entries, the GC walk traverses a large portion of the
neighbour table without reclaiming entries, holding tbl->lock for an
extended period. This causes severe lock contention and allocation
latencies exceeding 16ms under sustained neighbour creation.
Add a pre-lock check in neigh_forced_gc() to skip the GC run if one was
performed within the last second, avoiding repeated full table scans and
lock acquisitions on the hot allocation path.
Profiling of neigh_create() shows ~3 orders of magnitude latency
improvement with this change.
Link:https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CALkUMdSCpx_ywYCx_ePLdm6yioO1nQWx7sSM=AEgsq0kywHxTw@mail.gmail.com/
Signed-off-by: Vimal Agrawal <vimal.agrawal@sophos.com>
---
net/core/neighbour.c | 3 +++
1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/net/core/neighbour.c b/net/core/neighbour.c
index 1349c0eedb64..078842db3c5f 100644
--- a/net/core/neighbour.c
+++ b/net/core/neighbour.c
@@ -260,6 +260,9 @@ static int neigh_forced_gc(struct neigh_table *tbl)
int shrunk = 0;
int loop = 0;
+ if (!time_after(jiffies, READ_ONCE(tbl->last_flush) + HZ))
+ return 0;
+
NEIGH_CACHE_STAT_INC(tbl, forced_gc_runs);
spin_lock_bh(&tbl->lock);
--
2.17.1
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* Re: [PATCH net-next] net: neigh: avoid calling neigh_forced_gc on every alloc when table is full
2026-06-25 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next] net: neigh: avoid calling neigh_forced_gc on every alloc when table is full Vimal Agrawal
@ 2026-06-25 15:42 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-25 21:45 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
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From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2026-06-25 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vimal Agrawal; +Cc: netdev, kuniyu, edumazet, vimal.agrawal
On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:20:20 +0000 Vimal Agrawal wrote:
> Once the neighbour table exceeds gc_thresh3, neigh_forced_gc() is called
> on every allocation attempt with no rate limiting. In workloads with mostly
> active/reachable entries, the GC walk traverses a large portion of the
> neighbour table without reclaiming entries, holding tbl->lock for an
> extended period. This causes severe lock contention and allocation
> latencies exceeding 16ms under sustained neighbour creation.
>
> Add a pre-lock check in neigh_forced_gc() to skip the GC run if one was
> performed within the last second, avoiding repeated full table scans and
> lock acquisitions on the hot allocation path.
>
> Profiling of neigh_create() shows ~3 orders of magnitude latency
> improvement with this change.
I'm not an expert on neigh but 1 second seems a little aggressive.
Can you see if 10msec doesn't give us a similar win?
> net/core/neighbour.c | 3 +++
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/net/core/neighbour.c b/net/core/neighbour.c
> index 1349c0eedb64..078842db3c5f 100644
> --- a/net/core/neighbour.c
> +++ b/net/core/neighbour.c
> @@ -260,6 +260,9 @@ static int neigh_forced_gc(struct neigh_table *tbl)
> int shrunk = 0;
> int loop = 0;
>
> + if (!time_after(jiffies, READ_ONCE(tbl->last_flush) + HZ))
> + return 0;
> +
> NEIGH_CACHE_STAT_INC(tbl, forced_gc_runs);
>
> spin_lock_bh(&tbl->lock);
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* Re: [PATCH net-next] net: neigh: avoid calling neigh_forced_gc on every alloc when table is full
2026-06-25 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next] net: neigh: avoid calling neigh_forced_gc on every alloc when table is full Vimal Agrawal
2026-06-25 15:42 ` Jakub Kicinski
@ 2026-06-25 21:45 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
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From: Kuniyuki Iwashima @ 2026-06-25 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: avimalin; +Cc: edumazet, kuniyu, netdev, vimal.agrawal, kuba
From: Vimal Agrawal <avimalin@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:20:20 +0000
> Once the neighbour table exceeds gc_thresh3, neigh_forced_gc() is called
> on every allocation attempt with no rate limiting. In workloads with mostly
> active/reachable entries, the GC walk traverses a large portion of the
> neighbour table without reclaiming entries, holding tbl->lock for an
> extended period. This causes severe lock contention and allocation
> latencies exceeding 16ms under sustained neighbour creation.
>
> Add a pre-lock check in neigh_forced_gc() to skip the GC run if one was
> performed within the last second, avoiding repeated full table scans and
> lock acquisitions on the hot allocation path.
>
> Profiling of neigh_create() shows ~3 orders of magnitude latency
> improvement with this change.
>
> Link:https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CALkUMdSCpx_ywYCx_ePLdm6yioO1nQWx7sSM=AEgsq0kywHxTw@mail.gmail.com/
From the thread, these look misconfigured.
---8<---
net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh2 = 32768
net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh3 = 32768
---8<---
If gc_thresh3 is larger enough, gc_thresh2 will give you 5s
rate limiting.
If the number of active neigh entries constantly exceeds
gc_thresh3, it will be the correct gc_thresh2 for you.
Also, I guess you want a new kernel param for the first
neigh_hash_alloc(), which is currently fixed for 3, which
is too small for some hosts.
50000 entries require neigh_hash_grow() 13 times.
Can you test this on your real workload, starting from
neigh_hash_shift=16 and appropriate gc_thresh2/3 ?
---8<---
diff --git a/net/core/neighbour.c b/net/core/neighbour.c
index 1349c0eedb64..a75b3750eec9 100644
--- a/net/core/neighbour.c
+++ b/net/core/neighbour.c
@@ -1817,6 +1817,22 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(neigh_parms_release);
static struct lock_class_key neigh_table_proxy_queue_class;
static struct neigh_table __rcu *neigh_tables[NEIGH_NR_TABLES] __read_mostly;
+static __initdata unsigned long neigh_hash_shift = 3;
+
+static int __init neigh_set_hash_shift(char *str)
+{
+ ssize_t ret;
+
+ if (!str)
+ return 0;
+
+ ret = kstrtoul(str, 0, &neigh_hash_shift);
+ if (ret)
+ return 0;
+
+ return 1;
+}
+__setup("neigh_hash_shift=", neigh_set_hash_shift);
void neigh_table_init(int index, struct neigh_table *tbl)
{
@@ -1843,7 +1859,7 @@ void neigh_table_init(int index, struct neigh_table *tbl)
panic("cannot create neighbour proc dir entry");
#endif
- RCU_INIT_POINTER(tbl->nht, neigh_hash_alloc(3));
+ RCU_INIT_POINTER(tbl->nht, neigh_hash_alloc(neigh_hash_shift));
phsize = (PNEIGH_HASHMASK + 1) * sizeof(struct pneigh_entry *);
tbl->phash_buckets = kzalloc(phsize, GFP_KERNEL);
---8<---
> Signed-off-by: Vimal Agrawal <vimal.agrawal@sophos.com>
> ---
> net/core/neighbour.c | 3 +++
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/net/core/neighbour.c b/net/core/neighbour.c
> index 1349c0eedb64..078842db3c5f 100644
> --- a/net/core/neighbour.c
> +++ b/net/core/neighbour.c
> @@ -260,6 +260,9 @@ static int neigh_forced_gc(struct neigh_table *tbl)
> int shrunk = 0;
> int loop = 0;
>
> + if (!time_after(jiffies, READ_ONCE(tbl->last_flush) + HZ))
> + return 0;
> +
> NEIGH_CACHE_STAT_INC(tbl, forced_gc_runs);
>
> spin_lock_bh(&tbl->lock);
> --
> 2.17.1
> v
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