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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
Cc: fstests@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, zlang@redhat.com,
	hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 04/11] fstests: add _require_unique_f_fsid() helper
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 10:11:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260701171122.GF6517@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f556db45f1ffc93508a69ce9f9e567b74384210f.1781694879.git.asj@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 07:20:31PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
> Add a helper to check if the target filesystem supports unique f_fsid
> tracking across cloned or snapshot instances.
> 
> Certain filesystems like XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure unique f_fsid
> identifiers per filesystem instance. However, Ext4 derives its f_fsid
> directly from its superblock UUID, which leads to identical f_fsid
> values on cloned images until the UUID is manually modified by userspace.
> 
> Introduce _require_unique_f_fsid() to allow test cases requiring strict
> f_fsid uniqueness to skip gracefully on unsupported filesystems.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
> ---
>  common/rc | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/common/rc b/common/rc
> index 968ba33686f3..d95eec94f7b7 100644
> --- a/common/rc
> +++ b/common/rc
> @@ -6310,6 +6310,27 @@ _require_fanotify_ioerrors()
>  	_notrun "$FSTYP does not support fanotify ioerrors"
>  }
>  
> +# Ext4 derives f_fsid from the superblock UUID, meaning clones share the
> +# same f_fsid until their UUIDs diverge. Conversely, XFS, Btrfs,
> +# and F2FS ensure f_fsid remains unique per filesystem instance (often by
> +# deriving it from the UUID and underlying block device.)
> +#
> +# Across all filesystems, a UUID collision causes libblkid tools to return
> +# non-deterministic device mappings. It is ultimately the responsibility
> +# of the userspace utility or use-case to enforce uniqueness when a clone
> +# diverges. For details, see mailing list thread discussions:
> +#   Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/20260409131238.GC18443@macsyma-wired.lan/
> +_require_unique_f_fsid()
> +{
> +	# Skip the test if the filesystem does not enforce unique f_fsids
> +	# natively. Checking this dynamically requires recreating a clone
> +	# layout, so we use a static lookup based on FSTYP.

I would switch these two comments.  The second comment above describes
what this predicate function actually determines, whereas the first
comment above the function justifies the internal behavior of the
function.

# Skip the test if the filesystem does not enforce unique f_fsids
# natively. Checking this dynamically requires recreating a clone
# layout, so we use a static lookup based on FSTYP.
#
# Across all filesystems, a UUID collision causes libblkid tools to return
# non-deterministic device mappings. It is ultimately the responsibility
# of the userspace utility or use-case to enforce uniqueness when a clone
# diverges. For details, see mailing list thread discussions:
#   Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/20260409131238.GC18443@macsyma-wired.lan/
_require_unique_fsid(
{
	case "$FSTYP" in
	ext*)
		# Ext4 derives f_fsid from the superblock UUID, meaning
		# clones share the same f_fsid until their UUIDs
		# diverge.
		_notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
		;;
	*)
		# Conversely, XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure f_fsid remains
		# unique per filesystem instance (often by deriving it
		# from the UUID and underlying block device.)
		;;
	fi
}

--D

> +	if [ "$FSTYP" == "ext4" ]; then
> +		_notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
> +	fi
> +}
> +
> +
>  # Computes a percentage of the available space in a filesystem and
>  # returns that quantity in MB. The percentage must not contain a percent
>  # sign ("%").
> -- 
> 2.43.0
> 
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel" <linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
Cc: hch@infradead.org, zlang@redhat.com, fstests@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v7 04/11] fstests: add _require_unique_f_fsid() helper
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 10:11:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260701171122.GF6517@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f556db45f1ffc93508a69ce9f9e567b74384210f.1781694879.git.asj@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 07:20:31PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
> Add a helper to check if the target filesystem supports unique f_fsid
> tracking across cloned or snapshot instances.
> 
> Certain filesystems like XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure unique f_fsid
> identifiers per filesystem instance. However, Ext4 derives its f_fsid
> directly from its superblock UUID, which leads to identical f_fsid
> values on cloned images until the UUID is manually modified by userspace.
> 
> Introduce _require_unique_f_fsid() to allow test cases requiring strict
> f_fsid uniqueness to skip gracefully on unsupported filesystems.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
> ---
>  common/rc | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/common/rc b/common/rc
> index 968ba33686f3..d95eec94f7b7 100644
> --- a/common/rc
> +++ b/common/rc
> @@ -6310,6 +6310,27 @@ _require_fanotify_ioerrors()
>  	_notrun "$FSTYP does not support fanotify ioerrors"
>  }
>  
> +# Ext4 derives f_fsid from the superblock UUID, meaning clones share the
> +# same f_fsid until their UUIDs diverge. Conversely, XFS, Btrfs,
> +# and F2FS ensure f_fsid remains unique per filesystem instance (often by
> +# deriving it from the UUID and underlying block device.)
> +#
> +# Across all filesystems, a UUID collision causes libblkid tools to return
> +# non-deterministic device mappings. It is ultimately the responsibility
> +# of the userspace utility or use-case to enforce uniqueness when a clone
> +# diverges. For details, see mailing list thread discussions:
> +#   Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/20260409131238.GC18443@macsyma-wired.lan/
> +_require_unique_f_fsid()
> +{
> +	# Skip the test if the filesystem does not enforce unique f_fsids
> +	# natively. Checking this dynamically requires recreating a clone
> +	# layout, so we use a static lookup based on FSTYP.

I would switch these two comments.  The second comment above describes
what this predicate function actually determines, whereas the first
comment above the function justifies the internal behavior of the
function.

# Skip the test if the filesystem does not enforce unique f_fsids
# natively. Checking this dynamically requires recreating a clone
# layout, so we use a static lookup based on FSTYP.
#
# Across all filesystems, a UUID collision causes libblkid tools to return
# non-deterministic device mappings. It is ultimately the responsibility
# of the userspace utility or use-case to enforce uniqueness when a clone
# diverges. For details, see mailing list thread discussions:
#   Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ext4/20260409131238.GC18443@macsyma-wired.lan/
_require_unique_fsid(
{
	case "$FSTYP" in
	ext*)
		# Ext4 derives f_fsid from the superblock UUID, meaning
		# clones share the same f_fsid until their UUIDs
		# diverge.
		_notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
		;;
	*)
		# Conversely, XFS, Btrfs, and F2FS ensure f_fsid remains
		# unique per filesystem instance (often by deriving it
		# from the UUID and underlying block device.)
		;;
	fi
}

--D

> +	if [ "$FSTYP" == "ext4" ]; then
> +		_notrun "Target filesystem ($FSTYP) does not guarantee unique f_fsid on clones."
> +	fi
> +}
> +
> +
>  # Computes a percentage of the available space in a filesystem and
>  # returns that quantity in MB. The percentage must not contain a percent
>  # sign ("%").
> -- 
> 2.43.0
> 
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-17 11:20 [PATCH v7 0/11] fstests: add test coverage for cloned filesystem ids Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] fstests: add _loop_image_create_clone() helper Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-01 17:07   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-01 17:07     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] fstests: add _clone_mount_option() helper Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] fstests: add FSNOTIFYWAIT_PROG Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] fstests: add _require_unique_f_fsid() helper Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-01 17:11   ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2026-07-01 17:11     ` Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] fstests: verify fanotify isolation on cloned filesystems Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-01 17:12   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-01 17:12     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] fstests: verify f_fsid for " Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-07-01 17:33   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-07-01 17:33     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] fstests: verify libblkid resolution of duplicate UUIDs Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] fstests: verify IMA isolation on cloned filesystems Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] fstests: verify exportfs file handles " Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] fstests: add _change_metadata_uuid helper Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel
2026-06-17 11:20 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] fstests: test UUID consistency for clones with metadata_uuid Anand Jain
2026-06-17 11:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Anand Jain via Linux-f2fs-devel

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