From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PULL 4/4] docs: outline some guidelines for security classification
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 01:52:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260709014834-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260707175027.3029620-5-berrange@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 06:50:27PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Beyond the overall virt/non-virt use case classification, there are
> a number of scenarios which we have decided will not be treated as
> security issues. Start to document some of these to give consistency
> in our treatment of incoming disclosures.
>
> Reviewed-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
> Acked-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Mauro Matteo Cascella <mcascell@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> ---
> docs/system/security.rst | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/docs/system/security.rst b/docs/system/security.rst
> index 53992048e6..52bbf0cc7a 100644
> --- a/docs/system/security.rst
> +++ b/docs/system/security.rst
> @@ -75,6 +75,69 @@ Bugs affecting the non-virtualization use case are not considered security
> bugs at this time. Users with non-virtualization use cases must not rely on
> QEMU to provide guest isolation or any security guarantees.
>
> +Security boundary scope
> +'''''''''''''''''''''''
> +
> +Even where a flaw affects the virtualization use case described above,
> +not all scenarios will be considered in scope. The following guidelines
> +are used to evaluate whether to apply the full security process, or treat
> +an issue as a normal bug.
> +
> +* **assert** / **abort**. If triggering the code path requires kernel
> + privileges (or root account access) in the guest, asserts/aborts in
> + QEMU are a self inflicted denial of service. These will **not** be
> + treated as security flaws, at most hardening bugs. If triggering the
> + code path can be done by an unprivileged guest OS account, this
> + **may** justify handling as a security bug.
> +
> +* **vhost-user/vfio-user backends**. The backend processes have
> + shared memory regions co-mapped with the QEMU process. The intent
> + of the process separation is operational resilience & flexibility
> + and allowing for independent software suppliers. There is not
> + considered to be security boundary between QEMU and the vhost-user
> + & vfio-user backends. Thus flaws in the backends which can cause
> + crashes / undesirable behaviour in QEMU will **not** be treated as
> + security flaws, but should be fixed as hardening bugs.
> +
> +* **memory allocation bounds**. There are many ways in which a QEMU
> + process can legitimately consume an amount of memory that is
> + significantly larger than the assigned guest RAM. QEMU's worst
> + case memory usage should be considered effectively unbounded. As
> + such the QEMU deployment on the host should account for the
> + possibility of large memory peaks and apply countermeasures to
> + provide continuity of host operations. It is typical for the Linux
> + OOM killer to reap the process triggering host memory overcommit
> + in the case of exccessive usage, offering a degree of protection.
It seems to work kinda unreliably here on my laptop. Likes killing firefox
for some reason. Using libvirt ... what am I doing wrong?
> + As such, bugs which can lead to excessive/unbounded memory allocations
> + will usually not be classified as security flaws, but should be
> + fixed as hardening bugs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-09 5:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-07 17:50 [PULL 0/4] Misc patches queues Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 17:50 ` [PULL 1/4] crypto/x509-utils: fix gnutls error code in crt_init failure path Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 17:50 ` [PULL 2/4] util/filemonitor-inotify: Use QEMU_LOCK_GUARD() Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 17:50 ` [PULL 3/4] io/channel-socket: Document why we can ignore socket_set_cork() errors Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 17:50 ` [PULL 4/4] docs: outline some guidelines for security classification Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-09 5:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-09 5:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-07-09 8:03 ` [PULL 0/4] Misc patches queues Daniel P. Berrangé
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